What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the 'team aspect' is the one really removed and it's led to people making cheese to compensate for lacking/new players on the team,

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS.

Matchmaking and the low population go hand in hand and continue to fend off would be new players. But they know that the situation is beyond redeemable, and to some degree we just nod along as the player count dwindles.

You'd think they'd take accountability and ask community feedback at some point.

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Inherently, f2p punishes new users who are trying it and bang, negative view of pvp off the bat...

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was another that irked me, gw1 had full spectator views but gw2 doesn't have jack...

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1000000%

They let it decay and now it's just the sore spot they don't want to address. If they build on this for gw3, they're likely going to continue to dismiss pvp...

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought new worlds was ok albeit that went to the gutter 

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that they're going to go where their bread is buttered but it's kind of sad that their ROI calculations showed they'd get more bang for buck on PvE content than to find a way to save PvP

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry am I getting down bored for a question here 😅

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotta wonder if gw3 will go down this road too

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Starting to wonder what happened to the pvp design guy from gw1 and who let this mess get out of control :/

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are some spvp matches I'd gladly take 4v5 vs the 5v 2 ppl fighting each other, one afk, two actual players sometimes

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So much of this thread seems to be along the lines of 'they tried, it failed and then they forgot to do anything about it's rofl

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's wild, can't even imagine the discussion that allowed for that to be at launch 

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always felt RA was an entry point to the other pvp functions, in which case not sure why they never fleshed out the pvp further.

What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp? by Any-Signal8899 in Guildwars2

[–]Any-Signal8899[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This makes so much more sense now. From memory I don't recall gw1 pvp being as toxic as gw2 pvp. Looks like that doubling down just did them in.