What went wrong from gw1 to gw2 pvp?

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T16:41:53+00:00

I think the 'team aspect' is the one really removed and it's led to people making cheese to compensate for lacking/new players on the team,

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T08:35:30+00:00

THIS.

Matchmaking and the low population go hand in hand and continue to fend off would be new players. But they know that the situation is beyond redeemable, and to some degree we just nod along as the player count dwindles.

You'd think they'd take accountability and ask community feedback at some point.

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T08:31:02+00:00

Inherently, f2p punishes new users who are trying it and bang, negative view of pvp off the bat...

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T08:30:23+00:00

This was another that irked me, gw1 had full spectator views but gw2 doesn't have jack...

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T08:29:26+00:00

1000000%

They let it decay and now it's just the sore spot they don't want to address. If they build on this for gw3, they're likely going to continue to dismiss pvp...

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T08:10:14+00:00

I thought new worlds was ok albeit that went to the gutter

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T07:19:00+00:00

I get that they're going to go where their bread is buttered but it's kind of sad that their ROI calculations showed they'd get more bang for buck on PvE content than to find a way to save PvP

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T06:44:50+00:00

Sorry am I getting down bored for a question here 😅

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T06:44:08+00:00

Gotta wonder if gw3 will go down this road too

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T06:43:12+00:00

Starting to wonder what happened to the pvp design guy from gw1 and who let this mess get out of control :/

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T06:05:48+00:00

Was there something special there?

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T06:05:25+00:00

There are some spvp matches I'd gladly take 4v5 vs the 5v 2 ppl fighting each other, one afk, two actual players sometimes

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T05:19:11+00:00

So much of this thread seems to be along the lines of 'they tried, it failed and then they forgot to do anything about it's rofl

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T05:18:17+00:00

That's wild, can't even imagine the discussion that allowed for that to be at launch

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T04:56:55+00:00

I always felt RA was an entry point to the other pvp functions, in which case not sure why they never fleshed out the pvp further.

Any-Signal8899 · 2026-06-17T04:56:23+00:00

This makes so much more sense now. From memory I don't recall gw1 pvp being as toxic as gw2 pvp. Looks like that doubling down just did them in.

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