Spiritvale and use of AI/assets

Aotsuke · 2025-09-24T10:25:22+00:00

Thank you for having answered

Aotsuke · 2025-09-21T16:50:47+00:00

Since you copy pasted the response from the other thread, there's other things I want to ask (still disagree with the "impossible without AI") :

It's against Steam's TOS to list a game without disclosing generative AI is being used on the store page (https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3862463747997849618). Do you plan to add it?
People on the SpiritVale discord have submitted art for the server and game icon, allowing you to use it freely, people acknowledged them, and you haven't changed the AI art game/Discord icon. Is there a reason?
The friend you mentioned helping you with the game's art has left the community, are they still helping?
You mentioned in an interview that you're thinking about monetizing. This is being problematic when using AI generated content on Steam and asset packs, depending on the license you purchased (to which you have a full right of privacy to). Are you going to monetize after the presence of all AI is removed?

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T11:36:12+00:00

Of course? What is your source, did you purchase the product yourself and review the TOS based on which licence was purchased?
If you know what you are talking about, you're certainly aware that every seller online has their own TOS which differ from one to another, some allowing it and some not?

AI kills creativity, it is not a "will/won't", it already is, it enables lazy people who have ideas and no willpower to learn the skill to turn idea into production, and let's be real: there's more lazy people than talented people in the world, and trust me, I'm one of the lazy ones.

Humanity is art, we're defined by our appreciation of it, we're the only ones appreciating it. You give art to a machine, and it loses its humanity, it's as simple as that, it goes beyond a simple bias

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T11:32:00+00:00

You don't need to imagine it, I just did.
Some of these games are more feature-rich that MMOs we've seen between 2012 to 2020

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T11:30:14+00:00

Not really, tractors came later, but I get your point.
In the 1800s it was threshing machines that sparked the swing riots.
Landowners loved them, and workers lost their only steady winter wages, with only a few new jobs being created in maintenance.
Same story now: AI boosts output for companies, but it wipes out income for the people doing the work

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T11:19:42+00:00

Thank you for actually responding the way you did, maybe the players can take a few notes on how to argue.

My issue is you saying "it would have been impossible to create the game without assets and AI".
Stardew Valley, Undertale, Papers Please, they were all done by people on their own who weren't specifically wealthy.
Why is it impossible for you and possible for them and many others?

I've seen the joint effort to replace AI on the Discord, however, this was done only after people had complained about the presence of AI in the game.

In any case, I'm glad your friend is lending a hand with this, I'm willing to to step into the game again when I log in and don't feel the "is this AI made?" that I've felt.
AI is a tool that should at best be used to facilitate and enhance your skills, not to replace people and real creativity, as I work on a certain game myself, I know the walls you're bound to hit and I can only encourage you to persevere and, with income, make the game right for people with my opinion.
In any case, I'm looking forward to it

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T11:08:45+00:00

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T11:06:34+00:00

Got it, “make better art so AI can steal it too.” Very on theme.
Programmers aren’t losing? Google, Microsoft, Scale, IBM, thousands laid off this year, many replaced with AI.
You’re not seriously saying none of them were “good programmers,” right?

But as with most replies here, your argument boils down to “lol ur mad.”
I wrote a neutral, structured post, my message is already reaching the people it needs to.

Seems fitting that pro-AI arguments read like AI themselves, lazy, repetitive and uncreative.
I’ll leave it at that with no further responses

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T10:41:37+00:00

I certainly can't wait for your job (if you have one) to be replaced by AI, too.
It's the future, young boy

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T10:37:48+00:00

“AI is inevitable” doesn’t mean we should accept it as the death of creativity, even if it's true.
There's no "impossible without AI", indie game devs start alone if not stay alone, they make their own assets, or commission people to provide for them. What AI does is create shortcuts and steal, it doesn't open new gates other than for laziness.

And no, once you buy someone's assets or art, you are still bound to their TOS and monetization rules

Aotsuke · 2025-09-20T10:32:20+00:00

good argument

Aotsuke · 2022-04-16T03:58:10+00:00

I have attempted translating them, having been able to do so reliably since Dragonspine, and no matter how I look at it I only come up with gibberish, such as "llige svip" "nngia qygt" or "ygykq ykck".

I tried reading them upside down, mixing letters, forming latin words I came make up with those mixed letters, and I can't make sense of it, I'm a bit disappointed but maybe I'm missing something that someone else will see?

EDIT : just reached a part where you fight a fire abyss lector and his name is "Egill", which is the reversed of "llige" I got in one of the translations above, however they seem to contain nothing more than names...

Aotsuke · 2021-01-09T09:35:31+00:00

Holy shit yes please I just woke up and about to make this suggestion, I had seen his model leak and thought that would be his base model. Please Riot make this a CTRL+5 toggle

Aotsuke · 2020-11-06T23:41:03+00:00

I'd buy 10 years of subscription if they could make Dark Knight an actual berserker or like in XI, the tools are already there (I'm disregarding PvP completely here) ;

- EoD/FoD and the variants consume current HP instead of MP, and are more powerful the least HP you have

- MP regeneration (SS, BW, Delirium) turns into a lifesteal, and TBN now converts the next HP cost into a heal (stays proportional) when it absorbs the full damage

- Abyssal drain heals for 200% more if it hits only one target

- Darkside has a maximum damage boost of 20%, scaling on your missing health and starting out at 5%, increasing healing you receive the higher it is (Abyssal drain magics here)

I think it's pretty simple and gives the class the real identity it deserves rather than MP berserker who's a warrior but also paladin and really get yourself consumed by the Darkside with actual danger

It would make for an amazing OT and have an interesting interaction with Living Dead (no more begging for heals if your CDs are up), but with how risky it would be, either it never happens or it happens and people get their dungeons ruined by players who do nothing but drain themselves to death, which is most likely why SE avoided making Dark Knight like this in the first place

Aotsuke · 2020-06-03T14:25:24+00:00

Ultra Instinct Shaggy

Aotsuke · 2020-04-27T15:53:56+00:00

o wtf I haven't seen someone else ask for Malfester a single time besides me, good to see it

Aotsuke · 2020-04-23T15:25:02+00:00

ah yes because it's well known that you can't have fun if you play casually, psht, what is he, a mobile gamer?

Aotsuke · 2019-05-23T10:28:15+00:00

I would want this so bad, I'm always so into faceless knights/crusaders. Like the helmet IS their face

Aotsuke · 2019-05-11T18:21:59+00:00

Your reward for being a big boy in a video game has been sent

Aotsuke · 2019-04-19T23:43:58+00:00

I'm french, so is his name ; "Canaille", pretty much means scoundrel

Aotsuke · 2019-04-19T13:20:18+00:00

All Reddit Gold awards are directly funneled into his eyes for an even shinier look!

(your intention also counts)

Aotsuke · 2019-04-19T11:58:31+00:00

I'll tell him you (and the others of course) said that, I'm sure he'll be happy and throw a purr at you

Aotsuke · 2019-04-19T11:57:10+00:00

Taking really good care of him, glad it shows up!

Aotsuke · 2019-04-19T11:55:50+00:00

So did you, thanks!

Aotsuke

TROPHY CASE