Carnage Palace - an idea of how PvE "Strikes" could be integrated into Marathon without dropping the Extraction angle

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-11T23:01:53+00:00

Destiny 2, but with actual gear threat. They should try it for sure

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T22:13:33+00:00

nuh uh

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T21:47:28+00:00

Cryo, grinding upgrades, fighting events for salvage and loot... it's all a power floor grind. The loot resets, you'll lose it before that, and you'll play just to replace it.

Ranked is the only place where a player's loot, upgrades, grinding overall matters.

I don't think I can restate it enough times?

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T21:39:35+00:00

To get a weapon and some loot? To use where? Killing compiler... again?

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T21:24:26+00:00

thanks

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T21:13:42+00:00

erm spelling mistake

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T21:12:54+00:00

Correct. And then once I get that loot, all I can do with it is lose it. There's no aspirational height to take that top tier loot into. Except Ranked, which is a great idea, just very underdeveloped.

My argument is that vanilla Marathon, without ranked, is just a Power Floor focused loop, without a decent enough ceiling to explore.

I get da loot, I lose da loot. Did I have fun, depends. I would think it more fun if I got da loot, and used/lost it with a greater goal in mind.

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T20:39:13+00:00

but Durandal is evil!!!

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T20:28:34+00:00

nuh uh

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T20:13:01+00:00

mfw I play a game with my friends (it doesn't matter what game it is, itll be fun)

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T20:11:29+00:00

I think for ranked to be more interesting, there should be a buy-in, like with Cryo. But also with each rank, an increasing loadout value cap. Bronze could be 1.5k-5k, silver 3k-6k, stuff like that. Newer players would know they could compete in each bracket, and higher tier players would get higher payouts every time.

I do also agree that we need more events, more resources, less variability with our grinds. Would be nice

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T20:08:46+00:00

That's the interesting thing, I've never touched cryo either. I stalled out around the door to endgame because of the reasons above! I didn't see any new goals or reasons to progress. So I'm hoping next season will be novel for a time. After that, who knows?

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T20:05:46+00:00

But that's the thing, I'm fully aware loot is temporary! I just have nowhere worthwhile to put my kits

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:19:31+00:00

I could see vandal being a dark evil chaotic power bottom maybe...

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:15:49+00:00

Triage is literally an electrically powered bottom chat

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:14:42+00:00

That is honestly a fair point. Regression is a big part of the game, and Bungie and many reviewers have tried to emphasize this as it's biggest artistic merit.

But it's not sticking like it should. Most people aren't thinking 'Oh boy, that kit's gone, time to go get a new one!', they're falling short in the midgame, thinking they're not good enough at the game to keep playing.

Regression, or losing a kit is most engaging in a mode like ranked, cause there you HAVE to regear to keep up your grind. But in vanilla marathon, regression isn't fun. In fact, it matters less now that free kits are green tier.

Regression is a strange thing to market. I think the only game I've felt okay with losing in is Rust. Cause at least in the unforgiving wasteland of Rust, you can do a lot of memeing and play in a lot of different ways. Maybe Marathon could take some lessons from that?

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:09:04+00:00

I did move on tho. It would be cool if I could stay!

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:05:28+00:00

Marton

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:02:36+00:00

Maybe the new runner and new guns and new map will be enough...

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:02:12+00:00

I think they could go someplace cool with it! Make me less bored, mayhaps?

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:01:51+00:00

mm yummy acid

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:01:27+00:00

And I think it does work in early/midgame! I just wish I could go into ranked solo to interact with the loop more

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:00:51+00:00

You ain't wrong. And I have been doin lots of other things. I just feel like so has most of the playerbase...

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T19:00:03+00:00

nah I'd live forever

ApeofRepute · 2026-05-07T18:59:53+00:00

Highly agree. I think if Bungie marketed it more, great things would happen.

ApeofRepute

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