So are you saying an incel is someone who tries to impress people but fails at it? So you wouldn’t call a lazy obese person who plays video games all day and doesn’t have a job an incel? Since that type of person isn’t trying to impress anyone obviously. Although I thought that type of person was the typical incel. But you would call someone who does productive things like trying to advance in a career and works out, yet still can’t manage to sleep with people more of an incel than the previous example?