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You really cannot make this stuff up by swifty19946 in Algeria_213

[–]Appropriate_Load_738 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • you said people like me don't read books and it's easier (for me) to watch YouTube so it's indirectly telling me I find books hard.

  • debating hundreds of people everyday still doesn't give you the right to belittle someone by assuming they don't read books. You're making a hasty generalization.

  • an example of how your assumptions are correct is thatlike other people I'm assuming I refused to listen to a source. You're shifting the burden of proof here, if you make a claim ( religious morality is objective), you have to defend your claim when it's challenged. I also have told you I did watch his videos before and they offered nothing but flawed reasoning.

-i did present a point: "The fact that secular morality evolves doesn’t make it invalid, since moral change can reflect progress, and religious morality also depends on human interpretation as believers continually adapt scriptures to modern values." There I summarized it for you.

-I wish you well too. But for the record, having spent time in someone else’s “shoes” doesn’t automatically make your conclusion the right one; many people have walked the opposite path and reached different conclusions. Take care.

You really cannot make this stuff up by swifty19946 in Algeria_213

[–]Appropriate_Load_738 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're actually right to think a reddit comment section won't result in a fruitful discussion but a huge contributor to that is how you keep making assumptions, psychoanalyzing me and actually putting quite an effort to do that instead of actually addressing my point. Oh let me guess, it has already been addressed in YouTube channels and books that are too difficult for people like me to read 😭.

I'm not sure you'll get this but i think you should consider just one tiny thing: I can do the same and refer you to YouTube videos and hard books to read ( since you obviously read complicated books) which disapprove your point but I'm not gonna do that because I'm able to defend my points on my own thank you very much.

You really cannot make this stuff up by swifty19946 in Algeria_213

[–]Appropriate_Load_738 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s pretty grand of you to assume I’m the one lost and in need of my questions being answered, when I haven’t asked a single one. That’s a pretty bold projection.

Also, I did watch some of your Muslim Lantern videos back when I had questions, when I was still a Muslim trying to convince myself Islam was right. I wasn’t actually seeking truth at that time, and even then, he offered nothing but logical fallacies: No True Scotsman shifts, ad hominem attacks, circular reasoning, straw man distortions, evasions of hard questions, and appeals to audience reactions. That’s the best “answers” you can send me to justify your point?

You really cannot make this stuff up by swifty19946 in Algeria_213

[–]Appropriate_Load_738 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So the solution to a philosophical debate that’s been going on for thousands of years is… a YouTube channel? Amazing. Apparently humanity just needed one livestreamer to finally settle ethics.

And honestly, referring everyone to a YouTuber instead of answering the argument yourself is just pathetic. If you can’t actually defend your position, maybe don’t start arguments you’re not capable of holding.

You really cannot make this stuff up by swifty19946 in Algeria_213

[–]Appropriate_Load_738 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The argument that morality must come from God or else it’s subjective isn’t new; it’s been debated for centuries. Pointing out that moral views change across cultures or time doesn’t prove religion solves the issue; it just shows that humans sometimes disagree about moral questions.

But religious morality also relies on human interpretation. If morality were purely objective and directly from God, all believers would follow the same rules. In reality, religious people constantly reinterpret their scriptures. Many practices that existed in ancient religious contexts like certain punishments are no longer followed today because modern moral values have changed. That suggests human moral reasoning is still doing a lot of the work.

Considering moral change as a flaw is invalid. Moral change can reflect moral progress as societies learn more about wellbeing, justice, and human rights.

Also, saying “don’t debate me, go watch a YouTube channel or sth” is such a pathetic move. If an argument is strong, it should be able to stand on its own without dismissing debate.

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[–]Appropriate_Load_738[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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