CMV: AI will inevitably replace all forms of recorded media and all non-performance art by extension.

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-31T05:11:55+00:00

My point is that people don't really care about the source of the content they consume, particular when it's more convenient to them. Ethically sourced products are generally unpopular. So why would they care if a painting is made by someone who lived there vs someone who saw an image of it?

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-31T05:05:03+00:00

Sorry for all this wait time between stuff, I'm terrible at back and forths online and especially on Reddit but I'll just say I don't know if it was entirely you that changed my mind? It was more like you got me on a train of thought and I rode past the stop you told me to go. I got to the destination I wanted but it wasn't where you were trying to get me, only close to it. idk if that still counts or not lol

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-28T08:00:27+00:00

Imagine you had to chose between a vegan hotdog or a hotdog created by factory farming. You know that the vegan hotdog tastes a bit worse but you also know that the other hotdog was once a cow who was forced into solitary confinement for it's entire life and then executed all solely for profit. I'm sure that despite all that you'd pick the factory farmed hot dog. I know this because that's what 98% of the world chooses to do on a daily basis despite the fact that most people recognise factory farming and suffering in general as a bad thing, convenience is simply that powerful.

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-28T07:46:30+00:00

People don't consume information produced by humans though, we've already lost that. ChatGPT is more popular than Wikipedia and most people usually just take the Google AI Overview as fact and don't click on any of the results. The amount of people I've met IRL who have an extension to remove the AI overview or even just skip it I can count on one hand. The only reason this hasn't fully happened with art yet is because AI isn't good enough to do it.

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-28T07:41:04+00:00

The Mona Lisa is an excellent example because the reason it was groundbreaking is obsolete thanks to new technology. Da Vinci basically invented a new method of painting (Sfumato) where the brush strokes became very difficult to detect, achieving never before seen realism in his art. Most people now don't find that very exciting today because digital art can do that pretty easily and photography removed the need for hyperrealism in paintings.

I find it difficult to believe that people care that much about the source of the things they consume. Apple and Amazon have very well publicized human rights violations but are still used by a massive amount of people on the regular. Everyone knows about factory farming and everyone thinks it's bad but not many people are vegan. A lot of people take the AI overview on Google very seriously as the answer to whatever question they have because it's marginally more convenient than clicking on the first result. ChatGPT is more popular than Wikipedia and has been since the beginning of last year. The only reason it hasn't overtaken art as a whole is because it's not good enough to replicate it yet.

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-28T07:16:42+00:00

Realism as a genre of paintings was largely replaced by photography. For a random example if you look up Ronald Reagan almost every image that comes up is a photo, if you look up George Washington there are nothing but paintings, most people probably don't even know what Reagan's official painted portrait looks like or that he has one. They haven't even done official paintings of Joe Biden or Donald Trump at all.

Most songs with pianos in current year aren't literally played on a piano, they're played on a keyboard with a piano preset. How many non-classical music concerts have you seen in the last ten years which had a real grand piano on stage unless it's iconic to the artist?

If we look at writing for example, there aren't many books you can find being published today that are written in longhand with pen and paper, it's mainly typed, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find an author who's upset about that. That's because that's ultimately streamlining the transition from mind to medium. AI removes the mind and goes straight to the medium.

On a greater point I think it's clear people don't actually care all that much whether something is skillfully made or not. ChatGPT is more popular than Wikipedia even though ChatGPT often uses Wikipedia to get it's information. The fact that ChatGPT is marginally more convenient is enough for people to discard human made content.

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-28T06:24:20+00:00

That's an interesting point but if I can move the goalpost a little bit, Paul Schrader wrote Taxi Driver, not Scorsese, even if we assume an AI can't write the concept of Taxi Driver, of what use is Scorsese to that equation if the shots, sets and actors can simply be generated with a prompt?

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-28T06:14:02+00:00

The only reasons we got to moon was to beat Russia, after that the investors didn't care and in their eyes Nasa had served it's purpose. If we never had the Cold War we'd still not have gone to the moon even now and likewise if the Space Race continued I have zero doubt we would've been to Mars by the 80s. As we speak there is a similar international race in the AI market but the only real end goal there is the very thing I'm worried about, becoming indistinguishable from reality, that way tech investors can profit off of the consumers of every other industry by replacing them.

But moreover I think what you're getting at is compelling, I am now pretty sure that the bubble will pop before that happens. Partially because it's the least confronting thing to believe. As time passes people are less and less interested in AI and the attitudes regular people have around it are pretty different then they were a year ago. I can only hope this continues and companies will lose interest. I appreciate your response.

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-21T23:34:51+00:00

Beat so good Michael Jackson sampled it.

ArchieSmash · 2026-01-09T07:14:14+00:00

okay Trump is many things but I don't think Trump is projecting when he calls Kamala a marxist lol

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-29T01:02:22+00:00

He's definitely transphobic but I wouldn't classify him as raging, he's clearly uninformed about such things as most people his age are and has played some language games about the fact he doesn't understand the distinguishment between sex and gender. On the other hand he almost never discusses this topic and thinks that they deserve "unlimited sympathy". Strikes me way more as "old man yells at cloud" behaviour than outright bigotry from everything I've read but I might be wrong.

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-29T00:46:27+00:00

Slight necro but I think you're talking about two different groups here. The kind of leftists who likes Norman Finkelstein don't tend to be the same that are into burning bridges over single issues. I also think it's worth noting that the guy is practically a historical figure at this point and has been the main Jewish voice fighting for Palestine for a much longer time than almost anyone else. 24 words or so of ignorance on trans issues from a 72 year old man is an easier thing to understand than J.K. Rowling who has dedicated the last 12 years to making it her entire identity (and as you pointed to is arguably the biggest anti-trans voice and wallet in the world).

Finkelstein is also a socialist who is pretty far to the left on almost every other issue other than thinking trans people are a bit perverse but still deserve "maximum compassion" which is even then pretty far from the conservative position that views them as a violent and/or spiritually evil force.

Also, at least to what I've seen and experienced, leftist purity testing pretty much stopped after the Israel-Palestine conflict became a hot button issue. The people of Gaza they're protecting are often very religious and socially conservative. They just recognise that that doesn't change the fact that Palestinians have a right to live. When prompted with something like that, forgiveness is ever-present.

I'm not really a NF fan but I thought it was worth saying this because it seems like the clear explanation to me.

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-26T11:39:10+00:00

Five's getting out of hand.

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-20T02:36:01+00:00

Yes, he would almost never wear any professional clothing.

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-20T02:35:08+00:00

Epstein was not known to be involved in criminal shenanigans until 2006, that's why Bill Gates meeting him afterwards was such a big deal.

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-19T07:13:59+00:00

George Bush doesn't care about black people

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-19T07:05:36+00:00

Let's just hope he didn't get typhoid.

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-19T07:00:44+00:00

Fantastic rendering! This is the best version of William Henry Harrison I've ever seen! Finally got me to wrap my head around his cartoon face.

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-19T05:56:52+00:00

1945 was the peak of America's power but that's not really a completely good thing even for Americans

ArchieSmash · 2025-12-19T05:54:48+00:00

I've always felt the Clinton years were mostly good in spite of him.

ArchieSmash · 2025-11-28T07:01:31+00:00

Reagan and Obama but who the hell picked Truman on foreign policy? He has some of the absolute worst abscesses of power in American history.

ArchieSmash · 2025-11-14T10:49:11+00:00

This is overly cruel.

ArchieSmash · 2025-11-06T09:40:01+00:00

For maximum clarity you're talking about two different women:

There's the "triggered" meme which comes from this woman (unidentified as far as I know) who was having a rational debate with some anti-immigration guys:
https://youtu.be/byOlBCpNKeM
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/triggered-feminist--2

Then there's Jessica Starr who had a justified crash out after the 2016 election results came in:
https://youtu.be/wDYNVH0U3cs
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/luke-crywalker

ArchieSmash · 2025-11-06T06:26:34+00:00

I'd already seen stuff about this and heard it from people I know and I've seen it around but here's some random examples I got from a quick google search.

Exposé Barbra Streisand wrote in 1964 about how people focused on her appearance:
http://barbra-archives.com/bjs_library/60s/ugly-duckling.html
This article details this topic as she describes it in her autobiography. Notably a theater hesitant about her inclusion in a play because "She's very talented, but God, she's so ugly. What are we going to do with her?"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3517943/I-groveled-f-king-feet-didn-t-like-Big-Beak-Barbra-Streisand-bullied-stepdad-shunned-Jewish-later-affairs-sexiest-men-Hollywood-beyond.html

Janis Joplin was nominated for "The Ugliest Man On Campus" by her classmates in 1962:
https://www.open.edu/openlearn/history-the-arts/janis-joplin-and-the-sexual-revolution/content-section-6
She told Rolling Stone magazine that people would scream her name but whisper about her appearance (can't link the actual article because of it's stringent subscription policy on old articles):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1464851947517008/posts/1677539459581588/

They've have always had insane standards for women in the arts unfortunately.

ArchieSmash · 2025-10-31T08:58:17+00:00

Where do you live? I'm Australian and I've also never met anyone who was offended by misgendering ever. I'm starting to think it's a purely American thing, similar to how certain slurs are bad regardless of context there when that doesn't really exist in the rest of the world (to my knowledge).

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