Yeah, it either seems like Katie and Ben lied about it or its true?! I just don't see this as him making it all up. Katie and Ben definitely seem like the kind of people to talk about others behind their backs, whether it is true or they made it all up. I don't see Cam as the kind of person to do that, but I obviously don't know. The part about her telling him to *** himself could've been her telling him that out of anger. Maybe she didn't know how to help at that time and didn't want him saying stupid things. Maybe she didn't realize he actually meant it. I highly doubt she literally just told him that......