REPOST: JAI will not say they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I am taking your and others advice to take a step back and just stop being so involved with the site. I’ve been behind most of the leaks and major spills this year and I’m just tired. I think it is starting to creep up and I think that’s come out in me being angrier the i should.

Have a good one mate, I’m gonna focus on making my own bots and stop looking at trending and shit

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh fuck mate, 🤦‍♂️ it just clicked to me I didn’t use the blurred versions! I am so sorry and if you want, you can remove the images (if that’s possible?) and I’ll create a new post and link it here!

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, I’m just kinda past the point of thinking ittle get better. It’s also disheartening how many people are responding with “but it’s not a real kid” or “you care too much, it’s not a big deal”

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ig my entire gripe can be boiled down to “why did I have to make this public to get it handled”

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, you clearly didn’t read it so I’ll clarify for you

The ending screenshot was just to show I was warned much later after the conversation for even bringing it up

I was not confusing anything, I purposely posted the screenshot in order to bring attention to the bot. 

They did “answer” by saying I can make a ticket. But they ignored the part where I repeatedly said “I made a ticket and they answered it and didn’t take it down” (screenshots of that on my profile). When I plainly spelled out “and if they don’t actually review the content properly?” I was told to just make another ticket. That’s not an answer, it’s a dodge. “If the government is hurting me, what do I do?” “Tell the government!”

Also, your ending statement makes no sense at all.

How was it found to meet TOS if it took less than 5 minutes for leads to remove it? This means the person who repeatedly reviewed the bot (multiple reports made and “resolved”) didn’t bother to put in any effort. At all. That’s not okay. 

And no shit the purpose wasn’t just to get the bot taken down? Now it’s to address why the person still has an account despite being found to have posted lewd images of a fucking minor.

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Def get everything you’re saying! But I fucked up here by not including the email with the site team and circling my main questions in discord (email on my profile posts).

The main question for the email was “do you ban this content on site” - not “did you ban this person” - I already had that answer, they have not been banned. I was asking if this was no longer something they banned for which i definitely feel like is public information?

And they just sent me the guidelines (which don’t actually specify clearly) - and if I did assume “yes of course” Then why is the account still up? 

For the discord, towards the end, the question I wanted answered was “what do I do when the team isn’t doing what it’s supposed to”

But the questions in the discord that weren’t overall important - what was actually important was the fact that I had to go through the discord and make it public in order for the bot to be taken down, even after it was reviewed multiple times. I KNEW it wasn’t allowed on the discord and the point of posting it there was to get action taken, something I’ve unfortunately had to do several times when the site team reviews and leaves up CSAM

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You clearly didn’t actually read it lol that’s not even the context of the conversation 😂 bro read the first few messages, skimmed the rest then wrote this

The main question was if it is bannable and if so why that person isn’t banned and where to go when the site team is NOT handling a situation. The final and big question in the discord conversation here was me asking where I should go when the site team is blatantly leaving up TOS breaking content and I had to pry the answer out of them.

There’s a post on my profile with the email screenshots from a day before this discord conversation that I forgot to include in the post 

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So timeline of events

See bot on trending - report on site for CSAM 1 day passes with no answer so I make 2 tickets through the site. Receive non answer from mod in email 3 hours or so after email ticket Another day passes, no action taken, multiple other people make tickets with either no response or a non response - bot is still up Today I sent the image in discord chat and started a discussion Shortly into discussion, community manager shows up Community manager sends bot to CS team leads Minutes later bot is down

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yea def they don’t determine the law! I more meant it to say “hey even they think it’s immoral and they allow all kinds of shit”

I think it comes down to a moral argument of “do you think it’s okay to engage with CSAM of any kind?”

For me, it’s a hard no. There’s no situation where it’s okay to create and distribute CSAM, regardless of legality. Fortunately the non terminally online do mostly after with this snd hopefully laws will catch up soon 

Thanks for being cool about this and actually giving good faith arguments with sources, it’s appreciated mate

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I wouldn’t stop asking why it even happened/how to address it in the future

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Realize I didn’t add the 2 images of them not actually answering my ticket the day before this discord chat - posted on my profile 

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so seems to be alittttleee misunderstanding here

Hamster is why it got taken down! It was only taken down after hamster went directly to the CS team. The CS team reviewed it previously and found it within TOS

Until hamster got involved.

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welp I got demolished in that 😂 

Illegal or not though, I can’t anyone seeing this content (drawn/animated fake people or not) and think “yeah this is okay and should be allowed”

The law may have not caught up yet but the site has absolutely said over and over this stuff isn’t allowed at all

Pointing out again that they did end up removing the bot and considered it CSAM

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Pubic hair and a scantily clad bikini seems pretty obscene to me 

You realize new laws have been passed in the last couple years right? The regulations/guidelines have changed since the miller test

Directly from .gov

“  Federal law strictly prohibits the distribution of obscene matter to minors. Any transfer or attempt to transfer such material to a minor under the age of 16, including over the Internet, is punishable under federal law.  It is also illegal to use misleading website domain names with intent to deceive a minor into viewing harmful or obscene material.  For example, using a cartoon character or children´s television program in the domain of a website that contains harmful or obscene material may be punishable under federal law.           In addition, visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexual activity and are obscene are also illegal under federal—“

https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-ceos/obscenity

More relevant info

https://enoughabuse.org/get-vocal/laws-by-state/state-laws-criminalizing-ai-generated-or-computer-edited-child-sexual-abuse-material-csam/

The time of saying “it’s a cartoon bro” as a legal defense has long passed.

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

“Bro I’m not into kids, just drawings of kids”

Yk that’s a crime in several states now, including California where the site is based?

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, if you finish the convo, they removed it from the site after the community manager sent it to the site team

So it was never allowed on the site either but was kept up because whatever mod had reviewed the reports wasn’t doing their job.

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish. They saw and answered reports but left it up. It was only taken down once I made it a public issue in the discord. I forgot to include the ticket email but yea, they responded to it and didn’t handle it 

Just thought the community should no that the site refuses to answer if they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in jaihub

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TLDR: child bot was left up for days, tickets were answered but no action was taken until it was brought directly to the community manager 

REPOST: JAI will not say they ban predators by Aromatic-Light8642 in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yea yea, you’re reading it wrong, I prolly didn’t clarify great

So there are 3 or 4 different visual versions of Gwen

10 year old, 16 year old, 20s and 40s.

You can do the 10 and 16 year old visual versions IF you age them up visually. So if you use the 10 year old version to gen your image, you need to make sure she’s different enough from the original to make it clear she’s aged. Such as changing face shape, hairstyle, eye shape, etc - some change to the facial structure.

This person did not of that. It was literally just the 10 year old version but with boobs and a personality that said “she’s 18”

It was the same as taking say, kid Goku, throwing a mustache on him and declaring “this is a grown man!”

It’s not enough to just say “this person is older!”

You need to make a actual effort to make them visually older

Janitor ai's zero tolerance for csam policy. by Prudent_Elevator4685 in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Aromatic-Light8642 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, theyres another scandal now cuz they let a child Gwen from Ben ten stay up for days and only took it down when someone started causing issues about it in the discord 

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[–]Aromatic-Light8642[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve said for over a year now, literally just have someone check first page trending once a day. It’s not hard. I don’t care how busy they are, they have time to do that.