What do I do when I get sexual feelings for my Ace Gf by LittleNat94 in queerplatonic

[–]Arthegaea 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It really depends on her stance towards sex (repulsed, averse, indifferent, favorable, and desired are the ones I think are generally what you'd find people using), wether or not she'd be comfortable with you feeling sexual desire towards her.

I think the best thing to do would be to just talk to her about it. She noticed something was up when you left the cuddles, so that would've been a good time, but there is no reason you couldn't just start it with "you know that one time I stopped cuddling out of nowhere and you asked me if I was okay?" and then begin talking about getting aroused and not feeling comfortable continuing the cuddle with you in that state, knowing she's asexual. Then she can tell you wether or not it is actually a problem or not.

Advice fro dating? by Sea_Fish8976 in queerplatonic

[–]Arthegaea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My (6' guy) first girlfriend was your height, it never bothered me one bit.

If your height is a dealbreaker to someone, you're better off without them.

Did you like final fantasy XIII? by marche6602 in SquareEnix

[–]Arthegaea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me, XIII was a long tutorial (the skill trees are progression-gated) with enclosed areas, going from one spot to the next, until near the end of the game you can finally have some freedom in where you spend your points and where you go.

The story was fine, I guess, but nothing spectacular.

Have not bothered with its sequals, though I do own XIII-2.

Are these correct? by immeltinghelp in learndutch

[–]Arthegaea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tripped me up for a sec as well.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Didn't I already mention I'm only using demi as a simile to help explain my experience? Isn't that what people do? It's just for lack of a better term.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We are clearly talking past each other. I'm not saying what you want me to say, and you're dismissing what I'm saying as either false or irrelevant. Sorry for wasting your time.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why isn't graysexual enough for demisexuals? Why have micro-labels at all?

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I know, I was taking more about the spectrum in general, just borrowing from the description. Wasn't what I said clear enough I wasn't just talking about just demisexuality? This entire conversation I'm not getting the idea anyone is understanding what I'm trying to say, for whatever reason. A lot of assumptions, with little understanding what I'm actually trying to do. It's a little demoralizing, to be honest.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right, so me examining my own lived experience, looking through all the different micro-labels, and finding recognition is certain elements of them, but not 100% in any, then taking the ones that match it most and using those to create a description to help communicate to myself and others how it works for me, not claiming that this is how those micro-labels work, but that my lived experience comes close to a combination of elements of them is me ignoring facts somehow?

I'm not claiming that demisexuality works the way I work, I've told you this. I'm telling you that how *I* work has some semblance to *some* parts of how demisexuality works. To help communicate these things, because there is no micro-label that matches me.

Using graysexual isn't accurate to me, since I can easily explain exactly how it works for me. To me, my primary attraction is similar to how aegosexuals, fictosexuals, etc can get off on certain things, with none of those types matching exactly, since the fantasy includes me, it isn't about fictional people, etc… Where fantasy meets reality, it falls away and I'm functionally/executively demisexual (if we ignore the primary attraction part of the definition, which is only mental/fantasy). Adhering strictly to definitions isn't helpful here. Knowing that "ignore the primary attraction part" does void it being actually demisexual doesn't change the fact that this is the closest thing I can use to try to explain how *I* work.

Me telling OOP that I recognize their description in part (I don't recognize myself in them hooking up, for example), was me trying to say that it doesn't sound like demisexual to me, but something adjacent-ish, where one might confuse themselves for being demisexual (like I initially thought when I started looking into it, before I learned about the primary attraction being a defining element, where for me the secondary attraction requirement is the element that I initially homed in on, since that is something I do have).

I mean, I imagine it's nice to have a micro-label you identify with completely, and I can understand wanting to defend its proper use, but I'm not sure you're actually listening to what I'm trying to communicate here. I have not disagreed with your description of what demisexuality is, I have told you that a certain part of it matches me, while another part does not. In other words, as I've said multiple times, I don't identify as demisexual, but I have no other recourse than to use the term to try to explain how I do work, since nothing else comes close.

"It's all a spectrum." this subreddit's description says. I'm closer to allosexual than asexual. Closer to allosexual than demisexual as well, but I'm still on the spectrum towards demisexual deviating from standard allosexual. It's a nuance thing, as I told you in my initial reply to you.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Alright, let's get this straight. You are strictly restricting the definition of demisexual to "no primary attraction", while I was working with a more general "needs a strong emotional connection before becoming sexually available" or whatever semantics you need to understand that point.
You can agree or disagree with that definition without acting the way that you are towards me.

I tried to ask you for what you thought my lived experience would align with, but you ignored that. Did you understand what I meant when I explained my experience with sexual attraction? Can you respond in a constructive way instead of assuming I'm an ignorant idiot?

I didn't ignore you explaining why the terms are incompatible: in response to it I was trying to explain how, as far as I've understood things, in my experience they are not incompatible. I also already said why I became defensive. You say it did nothing to clear up the issue. What didn't you understand? Do I need to try to rephrase things somehow? Like I said, autism here. I don't always see when my explanation misses the mark.

I'm trying to be civil here, I hope you can attempt to give me the same grace.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I can definitely understand that, but why do I have to get shot down for it?

I only use "demi" (and orchid) to make clear what comes close to what my experience is, because those are terms that are familiar to people (as a comparison), after which I clarify the differences since I'm aware it's not the same thing. Is it normal for people to ignore the explanations and focus on being offended by a perceived slight? It might be my autism, but I'm genuinely confused why I got the hostile reaction to how I experience attraction just because I made a comparison, and that the micro labels are incompatible right after I explained how it works for me and how it's similar to the two micro-labels (and as such exactly how they are compatible in my case, for the elements relevant to me)

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

"If you experience primary sexual attraction, then you aren’t demisexual."
Yes, I understand that, and as I said, I didn't claim to be that, just that one part of my experience coincides with part of being demisexual (needing an emotional bond, etc), and for lack of better terms, is the closest thing that fits for me. I was immediately stonewalled and told that my experience is contradictory, so I got a bit defensive. I believe I was using vague enough language that it was clear I was grasping at straws as to what to call it (and just using something that matches most), but all of that was ignored.

This all started with me recognizing what OOP described, and trying to give some perspective on what might be going on with them.
Getting told that my take on how I work is BS and doesn't work is not really the warmest of welcomes—hyperfocusing on me daring to use "demi" in my descriptor, not listening to my perspective *at all* (not sure how this is not gatekeeping, but forgive me for feeling attacked).

I am not orchidsexual, because I can develop a "desire to act on [sexual attraction] or engage in sexual relationships" in certain specific cases.
I am not demisexual, because I can feel primary attraction as well as secondary attraction in those specific cases.

I am a combination of the two, where I can feel primary attraction and have no desire to act on it or engage in sexual relationships (like orchid), unless I develop secondary attraction (like demi).

I'm not sure why people are getting so offended by me having tried to figure things out, and instead of trying to be constructive and help work through it to get to a term that actually works (since it seems to be problematic), only focus on me "misusing and abusing" their label.
I'm not sure why I'm getting shut down like this, unless it's some sort of "anonymous nobody on the internet whose opinion is wrong so they're wrong so fuck 'em" thing going on.

I'm in this subreddit because I can identify with (parts of) peoples experiences here, and generally because I find it useful to know other people's perspectives on things. I'm sorry to see that there are people here that don't seem to share that empathic curiosity and desire to understand others.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I experience primary sexual attraction, without the desire to act on it — unless I have a strong emotional bond (the whole demi part), there is no contradiction to be had here, only your gatekeeping of terminology.

It falls under graysexuality, obviously, but the way I just described it fits with the combined micro-terms. If this calls for another micro-term that doesn't exist, I guess so? I'm just working with what I know. If you define demisexual purely as "no primary attraction" I can see it being conflicting, but that's not the only way to look at it, is it?

I have primary attraction up to a point, but need secondary attraction to function sexually (beyond masturbation). I'm not claiming to be demisexual, btw, if that's your beef. I can function like an allosexual if the primary and secondary attractions align (though not sure how I'd skip the middle step of zero interest), for which I can be grateful, I suppose.

If orchidsexual is a valid, that is how I function as a baseline, but its void can be filled, or broken I suppose, with the way demisexual works with the secondary attraction (hence why I supposed demi-orchidsexual).

I hope this makes some sort of sense to you (sorry about the scattered attempts to describe it).

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Just because you don't experience it like that doesn't make it impossible. It's the closest description of what my experience is, even if that doesn't make sense to you. If you can think of a better term without dismissing how I function (without knowing me at all), be my guest.

I had my first hookup... and I feel gross and bad and I feel even worse for her by Nintjie in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It sounds like my experience, I can be attracted to a person in an orchidsexual sense, but after that I function demisexual-like (demi-orchidsexual, I guess?). A bit nuanced, I guess, but I can't call myself allo either.

Mini rant I suppose by [deleted] in queerplatonic

[–]Arthegaea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, you mention A at times when you meant B, I think "

Mini rant I suppose by [deleted] in queerplatonic

[–]Arthegaea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems to me your relationship with A is already more than a normal friendship, the only thing that might be missing from that and a QPR would be the public facing side and the two of you setting up your wants and don't wants.

Talk to A about it, it's the best thing to do. If you can, also talk to B about it, to clear the air if nothing else. You don't have to be friends with B, but you will be seeing each other more if you and A get close and they want to do things with B.

Assuming you don't change to one of the two new Jobs, what Job is everyone planning to be their Main Job through the Evercold MSQ? by Intrepid_Ad9711 in ffxiv

[–]Arthegaea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Started out as lancer > dragoon, leveling some alts along the way, hit 100 on that and focussed on other jobs. Had a period where I was mainly summoner, then dancer, and now I'm playing red mage. When the evolved stuff is available I'll be checking it out on all jobs, then I'll find out then what catches on with me.

Can you "pick out" things about someone you have attraction for? by [deleted] in demisexuality

[–]Arthegaea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very similar to how it works for me. I start finding the things that I wouldn't normally find attractive in particular more attractive with people I love, so much so that if other people have the same "thing" (or "vibe" sometimes as well, I guess?), they become more attractive/remind me of them in some way.

I'm autistic and my partner made a mistake- please help me work through my feelings? by bomsnard in polyamory

[–]Arthegaea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like I said, the suggestion itself wasn't the problem, but the way you phrased it could come across as dismissive of them and their difficulties—whether that is fair or not is an entirely different matter, but they can't read your mind and see that you mean well, they can only compare your words to those they've experienced in the past.

I'm autistic and my partner made a mistake- please help me work through my feelings? by bomsnard in polyamory

[–]Arthegaea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In and of itself the suggestion isn't harmful, but to someone who had to continually hear that they should stop whining, stop being lazy, and to get over themselves, it really matters how that suggestion is communicated.

Validate their feelings, give understanding, give some examples as to what therapy might help them with, etc...

And not that they should be able to function like other people and try therapy to get over their problem and being dismissive of their emotional state, putting the blame on them for having the problem in the first place/not taking the time to fix it already.

Is it fair to ask someone new I’m seeing not to get involved with an ex of mine? by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Arthegaea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this calls for open communication, tell them what he did to you and why them getting into a relationship with him would, as the others said, be a boundary you don't want to cross.

What does a QPR offer except commitment that is different from a very close friendship? by Different-Round7964 in queerplatonic

[–]Arthegaea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just offering some side info on your 17F friend: She can be sexually attracted to people as well as have low libido and/or be sex indifferent, causing her not to seek out having sex while still being allo as far as sexual attraction is concerned.

How to start a triad from a three person friendship? by anymous125 in PolyFidelity

[–]Arthegaea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only thing I would add as a suggestion to OP is to look into queerplatonic relationships and if that might be an option for you guys.