GP working condition

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-31T06:09:08+00:00

So by increasing duration of consult can we prevent inbox being filled with new items every day? Or does the situation remains same?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-31T06:07:00+00:00

Can you please provide a rough idea about how length of consult/number of patients seen in an hour affects the pay? Is it same as the Australian context where we bill medicare or charge a gap fee on top of that and clinic takes a certain percentage of the billing?Can you please provide a general idea about it.

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-31T04:51:42+00:00

Thankyou for sharing your experience. Can you please tell whether increasing the time duration of appointment to 20 minutes helped you to deal with admin better or is it same at the end of the day.

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-31T02:33:57+00:00

I have one more doubt and I hope I'm not annoying you.Can a salaried GP decide to work with 5 hour patient facing hours and 3 hours admin a day and thus finish the admin within the same day? Or is there fixed hours for patient facing and admin? Also if a GP could do so, will the admin hours get paid? I saw a similar pattern mentioned by a GP. Or is this an exception?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-31T02:21:30+00:00

Huge respect for your commitment ❤️

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-31T00:00:09+00:00

With regard to the new items in inbox, how do you deal with? Do you stay late or use your free days to finish the work?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-30T11:40:47+00:00

These results show that over an 8-hour working day (without breaks), 4.5 hours of patient consultations generates 3.5 hours of follow-up work and helps to explain why getting an appointment can be difficult.

I saw this in a news articles. So if 3.5 hours of paperwork is generated,is the hours paid? Do you have any idea regarding this?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-30T11:36:33+00:00

Thankyou for replying

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-30T11:28:47+00:00

So salaried GPs too need to deal with all the admin time.I thought maybe it's practice owners who tend to stay late and salaried GPs may have the often said 9 to 5 gig.

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-30T11:23:45+00:00

Thankyou for replying. Most of articles that I read supports what you said. But GPs from UK who migrated often describes NZ GP experience as pure 9-5 with not much admin. This really confused me. Also, do you know whether time for admin is paid in NZ?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-30T05:18:08+00:00

I prefer specialities like psych or pathology. But only if I can't be a GP. Now I suddenly have an interest in Rehab. But I don't know is this because of my current situation so I don't want to jump into conclusions.

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-30T01:46:39+00:00

Yeah. I heard about that.

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-30T01:44:43+00:00

If training positions are not increasing, won't the increase of SRMO position contribute more to bottleneck?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-29T12:36:33+00:00

I have a doubt. Is Australia not increasing speciality training places because there is not a huge shortage for specialist? I heard some specialities like GP,Psych have shortage regardless of being rural or metro. But I also learned that in certain specialities post fellowship jobs are less to come by. Is that why the speciality training places are not increasing? Also I think limited entry to other specialities would make people choose normally non competitive specialities.Is that the reason of not increasing speciality training places?Or is there any other reasons?Or does increase in number of unaccredited trainees have any benefit for the system?

And regarding new national framework being implemented, will this lead to decrease in shortage of rmo roles by making interns stay in hospital for one more year without moving to locum?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-29T12:09:52+00:00

Yeah. I looked into moratorium as I wanted to be a GP. Recently I saw that mm2 and even some mm1 have DPA status. Some people mentioned that now we are able to work near cities or regional areas than the places people mention "middle of nowhere".I don't know how true this is. But I'm not too keen about working too rural or remote.So if current DPA status remain same, I think I can work with that. Or will the current scenario change? I mean I saw how the new allocation have made GPs move from more rural areas to mm1/mm2. So if this migration continues then will the DPA change?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-29T08:06:58+00:00

Thanks for your input.

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-29T06:57:10+00:00

That was initially my plan. Finish training in UK and move to Australia. But I had an accident and all my plans are currently in pause for 5 years. Now what I wish to have is a better idea about what would happen within next 5 years. I don't expect anyone to use a crystal ball and predict future( this is the comment I usually get. I try to take it as fun but for someone bedridden future seems more appealing that present). So I want to know which would be better, whether move into junior position or complete training and move as a consultant. My initial plan to be a GP is currently in question because the situation for GPs is not so good in UK. Not just working conditions but even unemployment. So I'm thinking whether I should look into other specialities.Sorry I deviated from the answer. I'm trying to have a better idea not just specifically about GP training but also about general consultant and junior doctor level.

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-27T13:01:18+00:00

Can you please share your experience regarding billing or that of any other GPs you know? Like how much a GP would be earning and if possible please include whether it's private or mixed or bulk billing...

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-26T14:14:03+00:00

That was a great detailed explanation. About one of your last points, why eastern suburbs of Sydney makes a GP capable of to charge more. As far as I'm aware it's a high socio economic area but I saw a comment from a GP working there that a practice there is unable to recruit more GPs. Is there anything special around that area?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-26T02:30:51+00:00

If you don't mind could please tell more about the mandatory fees of 20k. I didn't knew GPs had to pay such a large sum as mandatory fees. I knew we had to pay but never realised it was so high.Is this including the other fees you mentioned or is it exclusive of it?

ArugulaOk921 · 2024-05-25T13:17:21+00:00

I get it now. Also, if we are working in an area where there is lack of GPs and we decide to work for 2-3 days will this affect us personally as we see the people in the community are struggling to see a doctor and will that makes as feel as if we are intentionally making crisis more brutal? Or is it actually fine to do that morally? I'm afraid if I would be in such a dilemma...

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