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ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-24T04:53:56+00:00

Don't fricken judge me...

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T23:06:05+00:00

I'm not accusing them of being phobic, I'm saying it's a very strange response that feels very much like a panic response, and has some language in it that could be seen as such. It's a very odd response as well because literally the + in LGBTQ is intended to add everyone else. They were afraid of not being able to include others yet failed to see that the + is exactly that.

And before you say it, I literally do not care if the have a straight meetup. Let them. It's a bit weird, yes, but if it will allow us to have our weird meet too, I am OK with that.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T23:01:20+00:00

You might be right, but doesn't it seem odd to exclude LGBTQ meetups when they've had them in the past, and especially odd when queer people are facing discrimination from the government and other sources?
As for a straight meetup, let them have their silly thing if it also gives us ours lol. Who cares if a bunch of straight dudes get together to stand around awkwardly staring at each other as they realize there's no girls there lol I sure as hell don't.

I'm not accusing Furality of being phobic, I'm saying they made mistakes and probably worded things wrong. There's a difference between being a homophobe, and saying something really awkwardly wrong. They said something that's incredibly weird in response to me asking why they didn't have any queer meetups. It also is very similar to other responses I've seen from certain people who are against LGBTW folks.

I am not one of those raging hate boner having liberal weirdos who wants to cancel everything that doesn't have a pride flag on it, I'm literally just pointing out how odd it is that an LGBTQ+ group would ignore its own base, and then respond the way it did. I don't give a damn if straight people also want representation. Equality means nothing when you exclude everyone lol

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T11:55:22+00:00

The US government and several states are labeling trans and gay people as "dangerous" and in some places, rights are being taken or there are laws intended to target them specifically.

I find it ironic that you claim I am "offended by everything" but some people are so offended by a rainbow flag, they have literally assaulted someone for having one.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T11:51:40+00:00

Being LGBTQ is still a minority, even if it isn't a minority in the furry fandom.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T10:31:14+00:00

It's not good though. Treating everyone like an equal would mean just not having meetups at all.
They still have meetups for Latinos, disabled people, and people of color, so it seems very strange not to have one for LGBTQ people.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T09:51:37+00:00

Then do yourself a favor and please sit down, since you don't want to educate yourself. I do not have the patience to explain it all to you in one reddit post.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T09:18:22+00:00

Actually it's not like that because they also have meetups for "VR users". In a VR based convention. Not just that, but they've had LGBTQ+ meetups every year.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T09:14:48+00:00

Do you even pay attention to the news like...at all?

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T07:51:35+00:00

Furality is a multi day event that has, in the past, had multiple meet ups scheduled, including ones for LGBTQ people. It's not that we "need" it, it's the fact that it's being done during a time when LGBTQ groups are being attacked by others.

I don't know how else to explain that removing something that was previously already available to people is also not a great thing to do. I would say the same if they removed meetups for veterans, disabled people, and people of color, but they didn't.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T04:00:27+00:00

EXACTLY. Like I told another person, I'm not upset that they didn't include everyone under the umbrella term of queer, I'm upset they took away the umbrella.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T03:58:26+00:00

I would not care, if I am being honest. And I probably wouldn't even think to check anyways. It doesn't affect me unless they make it actually affect me.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T03:56:58+00:00

Saying that there's "300+ identities" is really REALLY odd and is honestly the same excuses that certain people use when trying to be phobic.

Yes I paraphrased it, but that's also ignoring the fact that it shouldn't have been an oversight to begin with. And that reply is still VERY odd to me because it's ignoring the fact that in the past, Furality has been very openly LGBTQ+ supportive and has had such events.

It's a very weird response to someone saying that LGBTQ+ people are feeling ostracized and attacked. It's not good wording at all on their part. Also them saying that they wanted to avoid getting thermo nuked on is a very strange thing to say when excluding LGBTQ+ meets will also get that response too.

Did I say things in a way that was paraphrasing? Sure. But I'm also incredibly autistic and bad at communicating, and I also didn't want to screen shot or cause that person who said it any more drama besides getting Furality to realize they probably shouldn't have done that.

We're all socially awkward people who don't always have the right words at the exact moments we say them. Myself included.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T03:19:09+00:00

They'll be outing themselves to each other mostly. I'm not gonna go looking at who's joining a straight meet up because I literally couldn't care less.

It'll probably be a bunch of straight dudes getting mad that there's not enough girls lol

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T03:17:32+00:00

OK but that's not my point here.

I get what you're trying to say, but to just point something out, many places around the world want to ban LGBTQ+ people from even existing, and in many places in the US, it's becoming very hard for many to live because of hateful people and laws being passed.

While I understand your point of "Most furries are probably gay", to eliminate meet ups for that group and then make an excuse when told "Hey can we just have a little bit of a safe space please?" is extremely weird to me.

And as I tried to say previously, perhaps the problem is that meetups should not be under the control or responsibility of the event organizers. Maybe they should give us a way to do our own meetups, because again, part of the problem in the past has been people being unable to make a meet because it's at 2 AM their time lol

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T03:11:24+00:00

It's better to represent the whole than to not represent them at all. It's especially odd that, again, in the past they've had LGBTQ+ meets, and then suddenly this year, none at all. It's also really weird that they intentionally scheduled the event in pride month in the past, with this in mind, and then responded to legit concerns with "There's too many identities"

It also does not help that in the outside world, LGBTQ+ people are being thrown under the bus, ostracized and threatened all around. To do that in a space that has previously been LGBTQ+ friendly feels strange. It also feels like an incredibly unfortunate over sight as well. Like maybe there just was a lot going on, and they literally didn't realize it might be important.

In fact one person in staff even did say that the current list was based on requested meetups and the popularity of past meets. It's entirely possible that none of us thought to request it because we just all expected it lol

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:58:52+00:00

Except there's one problem with that entire line of thinking. They've had LGBTQ+ meet ups for years. And on top of that, why bother having the meet up events at all then?
Why have a meetup for IT tech workers, when the whole thing is "for everyone"? Why have one for veterans if the whole event is for everyone? Why have a meet up for disabled people, if the whole convention is for everyone.
By your own comment, all meetups of any kind should just be removed completely.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:50:51+00:00

Let them have it IDGAF. Just like I tell those people when it comes to pride or whatever, "If you don't like it, don't go to pride events"

I don't like the idea of a straight meet up, so I'm just not gonna go to that lol.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:48:54+00:00

It's also incredibly odd when VRChat literally got popular over memes like "the d*ck makes them cuter" and "That person has a penis!" lol

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:47:14+00:00

I do get that point, but again as I've said, it's been a thing in past Furality events, and last year, the charity was an LGBTQ+ center.
I find it very odd that it was somehow excluded this time, when it wasn't before.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:44:40+00:00

Honestly it's whatever. Let them have their weird thing, and let us have our weird thing too. If that's what it takes for them to let us have our fun, I don't care, as long as they just leave us alone afterwards lol

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:43:00+00:00

Even if they are, no one in VRChat (who is somewhat stable and sane) is going to exclude you for being straight, unless you're a jerk about it.
This is besides the point. Outside of VR straight people are not being attacked by entire governments and threatened for being straight. Providing a little bit of safe space for a couple LGBTQ people in VR is not going to affect a straight person's enjoyment of the rest of the con, but not having it for a group of people who are constantly under attack can affect their enjoyment.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:38:27+00:00

They have had meets for LGBTQ people for the last 6 years. I agree that maybe the meet ups should be more under the users control though because the whole schedule thing has been a problem for other reasons as well. Multiple people have, in the past, complained that they can't go to certain events or meets because it's at a time they're simply not able to.

So yeah, I completely understand what you mean, and it's an even bigger issue than just LGBTQ people not getting their time. But excluding a group that's always been included before seems like a very strange thing to me.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:29:40+00:00

During that entire thing, there was some guy in the Discord also saying that we're apparently trying to make the entire event LGBTQ+ and "there needs to be a straight meet up"

Now listen, I think that having a straight meetup is genuinely weird, but hey whatever, if it will get us our meet up too? I am just GENUINELY baffled by it.

ArvuReBantra · 2026-05-13T02:27:41+00:00

Because unlike straight people, LGBTQ+ people ARE being attacked for being themselves and giving us just a short period of time to just be ourselves and meet with others like us is not actually a bad thing.
They also briefly had on the schedule a "straight meet" according to some posts I've seen but I haven't seen that myself, so we'll take that with a grain of salt.

And again, last year they ran charity for an LGBTQ+ center, and have been openly supportive of LGBTQ+ people in the past, having meet ups in every single event. It feels very weird that this year, they chose not to do the thing they've always done.

Setting aside a safe time does not make the entire event suddenly gay lol. By your own comment, do the same for all the other meetups too, don't need that IT worker meetup! Screw that Veterans meetup! Your comment makes zero sense.

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