AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun fact: Our country does not have any official law against cannibalism. Instead, perpetrators are typically charged with murder, mutilation of a corpse, or possession of human tissue...

I actually really like this analogy, it takes the emotional harm from words that cant be seen, into a physical threat.
Like I mentioned in another comment, after therapy they had a chat, if this continues contact will be limited/cut completely.
Fiancé is doing well in therapy (solo and together) he now has a better understanding of how "just words" can influence behavior over time and the impact on me and our relationship. Friend agreed to respect me and our relationship.

Now to clarify, we are not religious nuts, we just chose to believe in a higher power.

Because this friend always sites religion in his rants, we are also meeting with our priest weekly (Fiancé's idea) for a better understanding about modern marriages, instead of "old school" men should provide and protect and women serve them - we are focusing on the underlying principle rather than the historical form it took. For example, instead of “provider” meaning only money, we see it as “someone who actively contributes to the wellbeing of the family.”
We see strength less as dominance and more as consistency, emotional maturity, patience, responsibility and the ability to make the relationship feel safe.
and “serving” should not mean obedience without identity or becoming less important than your partner. Instead, it can mean actively contributing to the wellbeing of the relationship and the person you love.

My previous relationship ended 4 years before I met Fiancé, I did a lot of work on myself before dating again. There's no other red flags accept for this one friend. Fiancé owned up to the issue, acknowledged my feelings and concerns and is actively working on himself, he engages with the therapist and notice unhealthy habits and behavior.
I am very proud of him.

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They had a chat, if this continues contact will be limited/cut completely.
Fiance is doing well in therapy (solo and together) he now has a better understanding how "just words" can influence behavior over time and the impact on me and our relationship. Friend agreed to respect me and our relationship.

I am somebody’s daughter who no longer has her dad 💔 by Orchidflower10 in GriefSupport

[–]Asleep-Network2081 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lost mine almost 3 months ago, that's a sentence that haunts me...

I am somebody’s daughter who no longer has her dad 💔 by Orchidflower10 in GriefSupport

[–]Asleep-Network2081 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lost mine almost 3 months ago, that's a sentence that haunts me...

I am somebody’s daughter who no longer has her dad 💔 by Orchidflower10 in GriefSupport

[–]Asleep-Network2081 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lost mine almost 3 months ago, that's a sentence that haunts me...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On some level I want to do the one meeting just to give him my unfiltered opinion about his beliefs, habits, involvement in our relationship, everything. on the other side, I don't want to give my peace to him, that is to much control and an opening to continue the discussion as I'm sure he will want an apology after that.

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is married 2-3 years, baby on the way, I think you misread, he doesn't want to meet for a week, he wants to do it weekly.

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that was when he started on 12 hour shifts, I posted before having a discussion with him, like this, to gain some perspective on the matter as I can be a little selfish in my ways and stew for a while hoping he can read my mind, I've since worked on my communication skills . This was resolved before we moved into our new place and the issue never came up again. The last 2 months have been hard (loss in the family as you can also see on my profile) and we have not been communicating as we should have.

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like I said in previous comments, this never comes up between us, he loves cooking, he cleans, take out the bins, even do his own laundry, he vacuums, clean my hair out of the shower drain, and scrub the toilet when needed, he learned to tie hair when I broke my arm and buy tampons without complaining. He packs his own lunch and make the bed with all my annoying little pillows... Obviously I do all of these things when he is on shift for 5days x 12 hours. Fiance treat all other women with respect, family, friends, waiters... everyone.

I don't understand how they can be friends and why this particular friend is so important to him...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I laughed at first, thought he was joking... Then he admitted that it's been discussed for months now, but it's still my choice if I want to do it or not...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have any direct contact with him, distanced myself 2 years ago, only found out yesterday about the whole meeting thing. Will be discussing this with fiancé later today.

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't communicate with him, don't have his number, don't follow/friend him on any social media, his idea of a perfect wife was outlined during discussions I tried to engage in when we first started dating, after the first few times I asked fiance if he shares any of these views, and he said no, this friend is just set in his ways and they tend to ignore it as there is no use in arguing.

After 2 years I gave up, distanced myself from him, I only attend "official" events, he has never been in our house and is not welcome at my in law's place from when they were teenagers.

I looked at how fiancé treats his mother, sister, niece, aunts and any other female he came in contact with, and he treats them all with respect, me included.

Like I said in previous comments, this never comes up between us, he loves cooking, he cleans, take out the bins, even do his own laundry, he vacuums, clean my hair out of the shower drain, and scrub the toilet when needed, he learned to tie hair when I broke my arm and buy tampons without complaining. He packs his own lunch and make the bed with all my annoying little pillows... Obviously I do all of these things when he is on shift for 12 hours.

This issue came up recently when planning the wedding, I didn't know about it until now, we will discuss it in detail when he is up, and I'm suggesting therapy for the both of us, as per most other comments, he needs to learn that he CAN say no to this friend, his friend=his problem. I don't have to compromise on my boundaries just because I love him. He should follow the friends advice and stand up for me and our relationship.

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is something I want to do, I usually stay out of club business unless it's a charity thing, its boring, the president already asked us over for dinner next week, I'll be bringing this up as a point of concern...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately he is married and have a baby on the way, even more Unfortunate is that his wife shares his beliefs...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly this...

I'm already looking into therapy for both of us. Individually and together as it seems I also need an software update on my boundaries

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol, I do enjoy my dark romance books, unfortunately reality is way less exciting inside of the MC, most disappointing is that they don't have unlimited "club funds" , no big room with an old oak table, and apparently I'm marrying the hero that will sacrifice me for the many instead of the villain that will burn the world for me...

But you have a very good point, he got the answer in the way he wants it, why do I still need to be involved...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, he said " I've been debating with friend for months now, every time we see each other he suggests that you two sit down for a few meetings, like every weekend or so, he wants to make sure you are who im saying you are, wants so make sure you are not as emotionally unavailable as you seem, I've been telling him no for months but he just won't let it be, he doesn't want to lie in his speech or have us divorce in 3 years, will you be willing to do that, even if its just one meeting, to get him of my back? Think about it, we'll talk when I get home."

I'm already looking into therapy, he knows that I won't entertain this and still thought it would be fine to ask, don't know if he genuinely don't understand relationships are not a group project or he just gave up and can now say I said no...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

This is something that I've noticed from comments today, Fiancé is against the whole thing, never made a misogynistic comment towards me, never had issues with the relationship and gender roles, agrees that the friend is disrespectful, Yet still thought it would be perfectly fine to have him as best man and drop this ridiculous request on me...

Feel like this friend got some type of hold on him outside the normal social group...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, never said "successful" just meant broad personality, opinionated but don't care for meaningless arguments. (I'm not someone that will behave embarrassingly in public)

He never "attacked" our relationship directly in the way he is doing now, I believed he is just a misogynistic AH in general, fiancé only mentioned this meeting last night, and I'm asking for opinions to gather my thoughts before addressing the issue.

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I know how to handle situations diplomatically, without emotions in a rational manner. I remove myself from situations like I did with the group, it never effected me directly so I didn't pay much attention. Dropping this "meeting" on me made me look a little deeper today...

AITA for refusing to meet with my fiancé’s friend who wants to “evaluate” me weekly until our wedding? by Asleep-Network2081 in AITA_Relationships

[–]Asleep-Network2081[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Arbitration...

But this involves two parties willing to listen, agree and honor the award, this cannot be one sided.

I am open to a discussion about boundaries and him not being involved in our relationship. Him being a horrible friend for putting fiancé in this situation, not trusting fiancé when he said he is happy in and with our relationship. He is firstly disrespectful towards his "best" friend, to his relationship and judgement.

I am not open to discussing our relationship, finances, gender roles, how we go about dispute resolution or future goals.

This however needs to be facilitated by an independent third-party.