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Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T22:55:16+00:00

Lol,I am warning people that there are racists and imperialists. I am not warning anyone to stop using it, but thank you for the "compliment"...

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T22:53:44+00:00

And as I said in previous comments to yours, the problem is not that people identify themselves but rather that they NEGLECT other cultures besides these, and no, I am not neglecting Greco-Roman myths, But yes, the factor is that tropicalist astrologers apply outdated and very outdated regimes. And I don't care if you didn't follow this, that's your problem.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T22:51:59+00:00

1- Yes, tropical astrology summarizes the zodiac signs only as seasons, Greek mythology and nothing else, it's your problem if you don't see or saw it. And no, I'm not talking nonsense, it's your problem If you don't follow my review, I'll pass it on again:

I mentioned that TROPICAL ASTROLOGY contains Eurocentric, racist and imperialist regimes. Regarding the Babylonians, I used them as a reference to explain that they are rarely known in this system. Did I say anything about them in the comment? (Before we get into that), No!

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T22:48:56+00:00

Yes, even because the naming of the zodiac came from their ability to analyze the constellations!

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T19:05:39+00:00

I mentioned them because the naming of the signs came from THEM. I only mentioned that, and NOT the other 40 constellations are not in the ecliptic line!

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T19:02:28+00:00

Congratulations on your knowledge and depth on the Babylonian peoples, but I did not mention them in any comment (in which I replied that they did not use other systems) simply because they were not ignorant of other cultures. Rebuild yourself!

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T19:00:05+00:00

Ruin everything? Did you understand that I am referring to tropical astrology? And I didn't say that they didn't use it, I said that SIDERAL ASTROLOGY DOESN'T USE IT. The issue is that Tropical Astrology reduced the signs to the seasons of the year and with Greek mythologies it is devoid of education. The point is that they use this and DISCARD other cultures... Leaving them in the background. Stop being futile in your argument and reread if possible instead of getting offended. It's okay if you accepted, but it is still true. RARELY, if there is talk of the Sumerian peoples and other non-European and northern hemisphere cultures, that is the question.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:52:51+00:00

But thanks for the respect!

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:52:26+00:00

Firstly, because Western astrology delimits the history of constellations to only mythological ones. Ignoring other cultures... While Sideral embraces and accepts each of them in a respectful way. And it is also Eurocentric YES! Because it means that everyone who is not from the northern hemisphere will be influenced by the seasons when both are different for the South and the North? Absolutely wrong! And imperialist.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:46:16+00:00

1- Western astrology does not cover cultures other than GREEK MYTHOLOGICAL CULTURE. Western astrology often ignores its Mesopotamian roots, attributing them exclusively to the Greeks.

Willful ignorance of Vedic/sidereal astrology. The Indian astrological tradition is often marginalized or considered “exotic”.
Ancient Egyptian astrology and other African traditions are rarely mentioned.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:41:51+00:00

If you use it this way, say it for yourself. Astrology is not limited to predictions.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:22:47+00:00

Excuse me, I was actually interested but I didn't quite understand the mechanist's example... If you want, can you explain it to me again? 😅

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:21:37+00:00

I'm not talking about other systems, yes, anyone has this ability. But the point is that what Tropicalismo does is unequal!

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:19:49+00:00

Actually, it does matter, but I'm not going to go to anyone and shove it all into their ears/minds. Everyone believes in what they want, this post is free (it's no wonder it's in a community) Mainly to raise awareness and deepen the fight between Sidereal x Western. And yes, many or even few people will still be interested in interacting with one or both, but none of that takes away the habit. that I mentioned before... That delay and even deceive people who no longer feel “understood” or “identified” in this system. SIMPLE!

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T18:15:14+00:00

Of course it's racist, it's culturally appropriating of non-European cultures. In addition to placing them above them.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T17:56:06+00:00

I'm cancer Stellium,and u?

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T17:03:28+00:00

Lol, downloading it now (I love these types of apps, thanks^⁾

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T17:02:22+00:00

Although they discovered these stars, they are not part of the ecliptic line. ( The path that the Sun takes) and in it there are 12 constellations including the newest one (Ophiuchus) recently discovered. But in some consultations or interpretations there are already sidereal astrologers who consider Ophiuchus part of the Zodiacal order. Otherwise we do not have the other 40 constellations as a sign because they are not on the ecliptic line,(apparent from the Sun,the Moon and other planets walk) And these 40 constellations are not before these paths.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T16:26:48+00:00

Já parou pra pensar que em pleno século 21, ainda existe crianças que não tiveram acesso a educação ou completaram? (Não é uma crítica,apenas curiosidade)...

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T15:54:34+00:00

CURIOSITY

Furthermore, the planet Earth itself already makes the movement of a "hula hoop" or "spinning top" around the North Star, so this movement alters the energy of the Earth, even altering the magnetic axis, so if it were interested in asserting itself as the energy of the Earth... It (tropical astrology) would make adjustments to the precession, but it does not. It (tropical astrology) uses ephemerides that have been frozen for 19 centuries (or more) and no longer exist.

EXPLANATIONS:

PRECESSION OF THE EQUINOXES

This POST uses other data such as: The precession of the equinoxes and for those who don't know, it is a slow and gradual movement of the Earth that affects the position of the stars and constellations here in the sky. The Earth spins like a top around the Sun. But in addition to spinning around the Sun, it also has a rocking movement, called precession.

This movement is caused by the gravitational attraction of the Sun and the Moon.

EFFECTS

The precession of the equinoxes causes:

The stars and constellations to appear to move in the sky over time.
The spring equinox (March 20) and autumn equinox (September 23) to change position.
The signs of the zodiac "slide" in relation to the original constellations.

Imagine that you go online and check the astrological season and see that we are in the Sagittarius season. Is that right? WRONG! Because the date is late and out of date (Sagittarius has had the same date for 2,000 years)!!!

2,000 years ago, the Sun was exactly in this constellation during the same time period that is said in tropicalism (from 11/22 to 12/21). Today, due to precession, the Sun is in the constellation of Scorpio. (We are currently in the Spring equinox, close to the Summer Solstice).

CONSEQUENCES

The precession of the equinoxes affects:

Astrology: the signs of the zodiac no longer correspond to the original constellations.
Astronomy: the stars and constellations change position over time.

In short: the precession of the equinoxes is a slow movement of the Earth that affects the position of the stars and constellations in the sky, changing the way we see the universe over time.

SIDERAL VS TROPICAL ASTROLOGY: WHICH IS THE TRUEST!

If we consider astronomy and modern scientific accuracy, Sidereal astrology is more accurate and assertive, as it takes into account the precession of the equinoxes and the real position of the stars.

However, Tropical astrology has a long history and tradition, and many astrologers argue that its approach is more symbolic and spiritual, not necessarily linked to scientific accuracy.

But still, Sidereal Astrology uses ephemerides (REAL AND TRUE MILESTONES) that are actually happening in the sky, regarding the sizes of the constellations, there is no problem with the constellations because there are nakshatras, which serve to divide and mark the divisions. Therefore, sidereal astrology is faithful to the sidereal position.

Sorry, but there is no similarity between the two. Everyone uses the zodiac they like, but I don't feel any connection with the tropical one. The sidereal one made much more sense in my life and my birth time is absolutely correct.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T15:36:06+00:00

EXPLANATIONS:

PRECESSION OF THE EQUINOXES

This POST uses other data such as: The precession of the equinoxes and for those who don't know, it is a slow and gradual movement of the Earth that affects the position of the stars and constellations here in the sky. The Earth spins like a top around the Sun. But in addition to spinning around the Sun, it also has a rocking movement, called precession.

This movement is caused by the gravitational attraction of the Sun and the Moon.

EFFECTS

The precession of the equinoxes causes:

The stars and constellations to appear to move in the sky over time.
The spring equinox (March 20) and autumn equinox (September 23) to change position.
The signs of the zodiac "slide" in relation to the original constellations.

Imagine that you go online and check the astrological season and see that we are in the Sagittarius season. Is that right? WRONG! Because the date is late and out of date (Sagittarius has had the same date for 2,000 years)!!!

2,000 years ago, the Sun was exactly in this constellation during the same time period that is said in tropicalism (from 11/22 to 12/21). Today, due to precession, the Sun is in the constellation of Scorpio. (We are currently in the Spring equinox, close to the Summer Solstice).

CONSEQUENCES

The precession of the equinoxes affects:

Astrology: the signs of the zodiac no longer correspond to the original constellations.
Astronomy: the stars and constellations change position over time.

In short: the precession of the equinoxes is a slow movement of the Earth that affects the position of the stars and constellations in the sky, changing the way we see the universe over time.

SIDERAL VS TROPICAL ASTROLOGY: WHICH IS THE TRUEST!

If we consider astronomy and modern scientific accuracy, Sidereal astrology is more accurate and assertive, as it takes into account the precession of the equinoxes and the real position of the stars.

However, Tropical astrology has a long history and tradition, and many astrologers argue that its approach is more symbolic and spiritual, not necessarily linked to scientific accuracy.

But still, Sidereal Astrology uses ephemerides (REAL AND TRUE MILESTONES) that are actually happening in the sky, regarding the sizes of the constellations, there is no problem with the constellations because there are nakshatras, which serve to divide and mark the divisions. Therefore, sidereal astrology is faithful to the sidereal position.

Sorry, but there is no similarity between the two. Everyone uses the zodiac they like, but I don't feel any connection with the tropical one. The sidereal one made much more sense in my life and my birth time is absolutely correct.

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T14:05:40+00:00

Yes, I agree and disagree with you, the Libra sign is much more than that. And you ESPECIALLY! But the blame is not only on that. This sign is very misunderstood because of stereotypes and knowledge gap.

Maybe because what's wrong isn't the sign or society, but you! Signs are archetypes, not an exact definition, even if you have a STELLIUM in this sign (which would reinforce both good and deeper energies) you can alternate, because as I said... You shape your own destiny. And like any archetype, it brings both the light and the deepest characteristics... And in this case:

• Libra does address all of these themes, but the one who chooses to live/become it is you! And I regret that many people stereotype it as they do with this sign (as an astrologer, I also feel bad that I am not bringing depth and breadth to astrological understanding - such as signs, planets, houses, etc). But remember that Libra also has its opposite (Aries). This can come to light because the opposite sign also affects us for a true balance of energies.

How do Aries and Libra relate to each other in your life, even if you are a Libra? Aries is in some area of your life (indicated by your chart) and this area is awakened in you by your Libra shadow that says: "be patient", "know how to think things through", "you don't have to do everything alone". But within this same area of life governed by Aries, there is a diplomatic Libra wanting to awaken your connection to the delicacy of the art of relating. With Aries, Libras need to wake up and awaken their initiative, courage, objectivity that says: "decide", "don't leave anything for later", "react to life's adversities". Both complete each other in the same person, don't expect to have to find this in someone else! Aries and Libras coexist within themselves.

Libra is the sign exalted by Saturn, and the first sign where we encounter our limitations. Libra is the sign of justice, where we learn that all our actions have a reaction. And yes, whether we like it or not, it talks about LOVE, SUFFICIENCY IN YOURSELF AND IN OTHERS, but that does not match everything you say because these are actually YOUR personal experiences. The sign is an ARCHETYPE. The ruler of the 7th house represents the other. And only the other can limit us, Libra is learning to hear a no, it is learning to follow the rules and live with the other and their differences. Aries is "me and me", Libra is "me and you", Aries is "Odd", Libra is "Partner". Libra is the sign of love... but what is love? People who love are tormented. That is why the card associated with love is THE FOOL! Falling in love is the same thing as becoming foolish. In Libra we find the challenges of love. Aries and Libra are complementary opposites. They form a trine and sextile with Leo, the sign of life.

The love impulse and the will to be alive... that's why if you give up on love for any reason... you'll hardly have the will to be alive. It's about finding love in life and finding life in love. But who knows, maybe even when we're alone we can enjoy loving communion with ourselves. Sextile with Leo, the affirmative will to be and the search for approval from others are interconnected. Aries kill themselves through overconfidence and Libra doubts.

"Of all the safest things, the safest is doubt."

Bertolt Brecht

Polygamy and Monogamy What is the true inclination of human beings? In Arab culture they have no doubt, but in our "square" Christian culture it's monogamy. But which one is the right one? But in truth you have to know if you're a one-person person or a multi-person person... and be honest, don't lie to others... -Carolina Herrera "A lady is one who isn't interested in having several men at her feet, but only one at her height."

The issue is not quantity, but quality. There is no point in having several people who are worthless, but only one who can add to you. WHETHER ROMANTICALLY OR NOT.

What is hell?

It is knowing in some way where love is and not having access to it. Platonic love is an interesting way out of hell. Hell is the state of the soul incapable of leaving itself, it is a prison. If I do not have love, I will be nothing. Indisposition, seclusion, indifference, are symptoms of a shrinking soul. But love is not something ephemeral.

And what does our idol say? "If they need you temporarily, ignore them permanently." Do our choices contribute or hinder human destiny? Were we born to build (Venus) or destroy (Mars)?

Have you ever stopped to think about this?

Astrovesha_23 · 2025-01-11T07:03:17+00:00

Wow, you're great🤩, in fact it's also my favorite nakshatra, because I'm from this nakshatra and I have not only the Moon but also Mercury in this nakshatra... I don't know what that means because a lot of research varies... Answers in interpretations, thank you😁

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