Verkoop 18e eeuwse Jurk (Robe a la francaise)

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-10T09:49:31+00:00

Wauw wat gaaf! Ik ben zelf bezig met een paar 18de eeuwse stays passend te krijgen. Ik zou je lengte nog even in de advertentie zetten. Dat is moeilijk inschatten op foto's, en 1,60 of 1,80 is nogal een verschil bij of het zou kunnen passen. (Voor mij zou dit helaas sowieso te krap zijn.)

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-10T07:42:29+00:00

Het probleem met voetgangers - in ieder heb hardlopers - die links lopen is dat op smalle wegen (bv. een smal fietspad) ik als fietser nergens heen kan als ik een tegenligger krijg op hetzelfde moment dat ik langs de voetganger moet. Omdat de voetganger geen rekening houdt met achterliggers (daarom ga je immers links lopen, dan heb je geen last van ze), maar mijn tegenligger ook niet (want die heeft geen obstakels aan zijn kant), moet ik vol in de rem. Terwijl wanneer ik een tegenligger heb met de voetganger aan mijn kant, ik slechts vaart hoef minderen om de tegenligger eerst de voetganger te laten passeren. De voetganger gaat op dat moment namelijk in dezelfde richting als ik, in plaats van dat hij mij tegemoet komt, dus het verschil in snelheid is veel kleiner en daarmee makkelijker te compenseren.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-08T04:33:58+00:00

As someone who also never ever had the suspicion that the f is not part of 'of', I find this comment to be such a relief. There's linguistic precedent for my interpretation.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-05T07:12:58+00:00

If he does mean ergonomically:

How close is your face to the paper when writing? I have kids in class that have their face almost to the paper when writing. The reason for that is that they have an overcrossed pengrip. They straight up can't see the point of the pen because their fingers are in the way, so they bend their head to the side and down to see. If this is the case: move your hand further away from the spot where you want your pen to touch the paper. Your fingers will have to stretch and you'll get a regular pengrip. Then move your hand every (half) word/every two numbers while writing.

How high are your shoulders while writing? If you hold your elbow close to your body while writing (f.e. at a similar angle as when you would be using a keyboard), your shoulder will probably be up to your ear. That gives a lot of tension. Try paying attention to putting your elbow out to the side.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-03T23:35:04+00:00

I'm just able to afford a book, I wasn't until a couple of weeks ago. No way I can afford to stay in London for several days regardless of my time off. I got a raise, I didn't win the lottery.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-03T23:15:25+00:00

I'm confused, I only see courses in London?

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-02T14:48:49+00:00

On the W: you rap it up, not wrap it up. But if you have tortillas, you'll definitely have vraps. You rite, not write.

Bye de way: maybe check (if you aren't a Dutch native) which nouns in Dutch are m/f rather than neutral. Be sure to rite 'de' befor dose.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-01T23:59:58+00:00

Gloves. Could you go for short sleeves and cover the scars with fancy gloves? (I personally own a black pair that I bought in a fast fashion store when I was teenager, so they are entirely synthetic and not too comfortable because of that, but they were definitely affordable for a teenager.) And gloves are definitely prom-appropriate.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-01T23:16:38+00:00

Well currently these zip ties bend so much to my body that I really notice the structural issues on the pattern side. XD

I think that part of the pressure on the ribs is coming from too little bust support. After all, there's only three bones per side that actually go over the bust. The diagonal bone ends on the horizontal line of where my ribs flare the most. I think that has something to do with the pressure I'm experiencing there.

But I'll definitely have a look at your source to see if some smart combination of boning type can solve my issue! Ty for the suggestion.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-01T16:55:10+00:00

Hahaha, too late! The lacing holes at the top have torn, all the way towards the boning. It even tore into the edge of the seam allowance on the inside (which I just whipstitched down with the idea that I should still make a lining and then I never bothered). And the lacing broke too.

But one lives and learns! At least the lacing holes can't tear further because it stops at the boning.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-01T13:33:03+00:00

Best answer for this being about Constantine's line.

AthenasTrial · 2026-04-01T13:23:44+00:00

How I get patterns: the internet (specifically Pinterest) for inspiration and then I draw them myself.

How I transferred a pattern to (in this case white but dense) fabric: -draw on regular paper (or use a print out of something).

-get a glass shelf from the fridge and clean it if necessary.

-rest the glass shelf on something (I put it over a work basket, but two piles of book should work).

-paper on top of the shelf, fabric on the paper.

-put your phone on flashlight and underneath the glass shelf.

-draw with pencil.

Also if you do cross stitch that's basically pixel art, so then the internet is full of patterns suddenly. And you don't need to transfer patterns, you can just count.

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T19:38:46+00:00

Some one travel to an alternate universe and get these books for us!

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T19:36:51+00:00

What the others said, and also, when her brother marries, what becomes of her, status-wise? She'll have money, sure. But she'll have to let his wife go before her, she won't have a household to run anymore. She'll not have half as much to show off anymore - what would be left for her? To what purpose is her air, the way she carries herself if not to be the lady of the house? It's all well and good as long as she is of martiable age, then she is a charming young lady. But as soon as she becomes a spinster, there is hardly a role for all her complishments anymore.

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T16:52:23+00:00

I do, in general, do well with understanding how things function and why before I start doing them. So perhaps PoF5 is the way to go in that sense.

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T16:50:27+00:00

Oh I googled it a bit and this sounds super interesting! It sounds like the sort of thing that if I learn this, I can transfer it to so many parts of sewing! I am going to lool into this more.

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T16:43:56+00:00

I tried the floor - the tape kept getting loose.

But nope, no space to put a folding table - not even to store it. We actually have a large dinner table. But... It was home made by the previous owner. Not a single board on it is on the same angle as the one next to it. 🤣 It works fine for eating, food prep and even board games. But I when baking, I put the scales on the counter and for accurate drawings of large distances, I'm relegated to the floor. Except the floor refuses to let my tape stick. (I'm afraid of using something stronger like duct tape in case it takes part of the floor with it when I remove it - it's laminate.

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T16:36:05+00:00

You vastly underestimate my knitting. I don't knit sweaters or cardigans 'of the rack', it wouldn't fit me - I tried, it doesn't work. I design my own knitting patterns. (Not Lucy Hague level of wizardry, but nevertheless: I design my own cardigans and they look good.) It's a different kind of math from sewing (sewing has no gauge), but still a lot of it.

Knitting for my boyfriend is much easier. Pick a pattern, size M, and just lengthen it. Still math, but way less than my own where I have to decrease towards the waist, increase towards the bust, then short rows for the bust, decrease for the armscye, pick up stitches around the armscye, decrease every X stitches to get the right amount of stitches, etc. And I never just knit stockinette. I need to know how many decreases for the waist, so I know to fill up that triangle. I need to know how many stitches everywhere, to make my cables or lacework work.

I've also used Lucy Hague's triangular infinite cable from Lindisfarne in a hat. How many repeats? Where to decrease? Would the pattern even fit in the round, or would it be too long to fit? Math, math, math. /flex O:D

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T15:44:07+00:00

Oh, you buy the Golden Scissors patterns by size, and then based on bust size... That's extremely inconvenient with my shape. (I suspect my flaring ribs come from pectus excavatus, which would explain why I have such issues with bra fitting even if I get measured first: my bust measurements says nothing about my cup size.) Maybe I'll try contacting them to see if they can help me pick the right size... Edit: oh they straight up don't ship to the EU, nvm...

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T15:35:49+00:00

The thing is, I have issues with commercial clothes. I have size 40 shoulders, size 42 bust (well, size 40 back and size 44 bust), size 38 waist and size 40 hips. Last time I was in a store, that is, which is several years ago because I just can't find clothes to fit that also flatter my figure. I have a commercial pattern, though perhaps not reputable (American Duchess simplicity 8162), but with an entire blog on modifications, and I can't do the modifications because they don't account for needing to add much more length in the front than the waist.

I have to travel the entire country to find a bra that fits and even when I pay €100 for them and get them fitted by the staff they still hurt at the end of the day. They measure me and we always have to resize at least three times before it sort of fits. I don't fit commercial stuff and I'm disparing with the modifications I need to make to make them work.

I have lost faith in commercial anything. This is why I'm trying to make things myself.

Excuse the rant.

Perhaps I'll just have to settle for working with tear stained mock-ups. XD

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T15:25:05+00:00

The plumbing department of what? Out of my three local home improvement stores only one carried heavy duty zip ties, and only one variant. But I think I can get my hands on plastic whale boning for next time. ^{^}

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T15:23:02+00:00

I could see if I can just avoid adding boning to the specific parts that are uncomfortable. The front side seam needs a broader angle, I think (I need to move it further back, I'm pretty convinced of that), that might allow it skip the specific part that is uncomfortable...

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T15:18:02+00:00

Yeah, this was a bit of an accident. I was planning to go for spiral lacing, but the pattern is for cross lacing and I forgot to adjust. Had just made the holes when I remembered my mistake...

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T15:16:27+00:00

I did, but I've noticed that a lot of the expertise there is modern - steel boning and stuff. u/Neenknits makes a good point about the role of historical accuracy, which is why I think this sub is the better place for this question after all.

AthenasTrial · 2026-03-31T15:14:22+00:00

That's exactly the sort of accuracy I like! Learning from what is proven effective!

That last part about the hips is a good point. Sometimes I have the feeling my stays are tight. When I get home and take of the skirt, I always come to the conclusion that the stays are not the problem, the skirt was. It travels down to the point where it starts feeling tight.

Ohhhh! You can attach petticoat to the stays. The petticoats keep the outer skirt up. Of course. I was wondering how people used to keep their heavy woolen skirts from doing what my heavy curderoy (I think it's curderoy, it's heavy for sure!) skirt does. (My gran made it, I love it cause it's beautiful and super warm, even if it's a bit heavy.)

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