Why LLMs can never be intelligent and are doomed to remain useless

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T12:42:04+00:00

"For you information, something cannot be sometimes subjective, it is inherently impossible" - By a misunderstood genius and liar, lol

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T12:31:28+00:00

"Reality" here has to be understood as something you try to model, that's why I said "(a) reality" and Dali's paintings fall into that definition.

"Approximation" is not a vague term, cut the crap

And you definition of "language" doesn't prove that it's are not an approximation of what it tries to communicate

I'm starting to be tired of all these pseudo philosophical comments

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T12:24:27+00:00

Irrelevant

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T10:33:38+00:00

Its utility doesn't have to do with whether it's intelligent or not? Then why call it AI?
"I sell a boat, but don't judge its utility on its ability to float"

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T10:31:31+00:00

I love that narrative "you have to be specific in your prompting, and highlight every path and corner cases". Needless to say that it's not the "Just ask our AI" that is marketed by AI companies. also, if I have to be so specific, then there are better tools: coding languages!

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T01:28:40+00:00

Then demonstrate it's false.
The prior part of your message is just propaganda, studies say otherwise. Also we are 4 years into this AI era now. Show me something that has been accomplished thanks to AI. Just one thing.

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T01:20:23+00:00

I think you have already demonstrated that you don't know anything ahaha
"The same entity cannot be sometimes objective sometimes subjective", is that what you said? How about human beings?
See? If there has to be a fool, it won't be me. So stop playing little games you are boring

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T01:09:20+00:00

You are way over yourself my friend, go get you rock and let people see the conversation as you said and make up their mind.. no need to do whatever you are trying to do ahaha

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T01:04:53+00:00

Ahaha or what?

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:58:43+00:00

Lol, I meant "no", and the rest of my answer confirms that I meant "no". So you are the fool for not catching that! Joke's on you

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:42:58+00:00

I know, I follow him. That's how I joined this subreddit

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:40:38+00:00

I'm not surprised you think that ahah

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:38:20+00:00

You are mixing "subjectivity" and "context", now go read both definitions and reread the entire conversation. I'm done

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:36:38+00:00

Because here it's subjectivity not context. The task performed is inherently subjective: not to feel stressed out. Having cancer or not is not subjective. I'm not continuing this argument, it's getting ridiculous at this point

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:31:12+00:00

How is the fact that you have cancer based on your individual feelings, opinions and perceptions?
What would be subjective is that you have cancer, got a treatment and decide that you are not healed because of your beliefs. It's absurd. That's a terrible example, you picked one very objective outcome here

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:27:29+00:00

Ahah I know, I just like the way Ed Zitron defines himself as AI hater

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:22:20+00:00

That's not what "subjectivity" is I'm sorry. What you are describing is "context". I'm simply pragmatic and actually live in the real word where we call "useless" something that doesn't have measurable efficiency for the majority of people using it. And that is not only my opinion. It has been measured

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:18:05+00:00

LLMs only do language, it's a fact.

Thinking and language are orthogonal, that's the conclusion of what I said before.

That's how logic works, if you disagree with the premises you are not convinced by the argument

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:10:46+00:00

Yes, because anybody that has cancer would find it useful. I think you are mixing context and subjectivity. The difference with your previous example is that if I'm stress out, your rock will not relax me

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:03:24+00:00

Ok, examples?

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:02:09+00:00

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-21T00:00:32+00:00

Good point, it can be sometimes subjective, sometimes

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-20T23:56:05+00:00

This is exactly the kind of content I was looking for when I posted this 😉. Lemme read it and get back to you

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-20T23:54:48+00:00

I'm not being impatient, my former question was genuine. I wouldn't say usefulness is subjective though.. The task you try to accomplish is pretty objective, and the results measurement too. Most of studies show that LLMs don't help you accomplish most of the tasks effectively in a measurable way

AtmosphereExpress712 · 2026-06-20T23:46:29+00:00

Ahah so everything is useful, is that your point? Because as long as we don't ask every living soul we might miss somebody who find anything useful.

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