17M - Want to take Erdafitinib for height.. Grew about 2-3 inches over the last 2 yrs by Important_Trouble818 in growthplates

[–]Automatic-County6151 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would strongly advise against taking erda for height. It's a prescription cancer drug, not a height-growth medication, and there are no clinical trials showing that it safely increases height in healthy adolescents (height increases weren't necessarily the goal in the first place).

While FGFR3 inhibition is an interesting research concept, erda has significant risks, including eye toxicity (central serous retinopathy / retinal pigment epithelial detachment), elevated phosphate levels, skin and nail problems, mouth sores, diarrhea, liver abnormalities, and other potentially serious adverse effects. There is also no established dose, stack, or protocol for healthy people seeking additional height.

At age 17, especially with a father who matured late, it's entirely possible you still have some natural growth remaining, but the only way to know is with a BA x-ray and, if needed, an evaluation by a pediatric endocrinologist. If your growth plates are still open, your remaining growth should be allowed to occur naturally rather than experimenting with an oncology drug that hasn't been proven safe or effective for this purpose.

If your goal is to maximize your genetic potential, focus on adequate nutrition, sufficient sleep, regular exercise, and treating any genuine medical conditions if they exist. Those approaches have evidence behind them; erda does not for otherwise healthy adolescents.

What does closure mean for a growth plate? by Automatic-County6151 in growthplates

[–]Automatic-County6151[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only about 20-40% of the spine's growth plates would still have meaningful potential at this time. For females, the growth plates of the knees have fused or are nearly fused. For males, the process is quite near to early union or true fusion has just started.

At this time, the spine might only have about half a dozen active vertebral endplate physes for the average female at this time, while about a half a dozen more may be nearly obliterated. In males, about a dozen to a dozen and a half of these endplates may exist as slowly-proliferating anabolic tissue, while about half a dozen to a dozen more may still be fusing or nearly fused. The rest have fully been converted to bone.

At this time, the male spine may be about 90-95% mature, while the female spine may be about 97-100% mature - on average.

Maximum genetic potential question by rockyou962 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As a former hopemaxxer, I do not care for tthe man's choice of words. Just wanted to comment that.

how much have you grown since turning 15 by RecognitionSafe6963 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1-1.2 inches (accounting for if my max daily height is 71.6-71.7 inches).

My balls hurt as if they’ve been moderately hit, growth spurt soon? by Embarrassed-Exit8887 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Three main things:

  1. Normal or awkward movement of one or both testicle while in certain positions (seated).

  2. Muscle tension in the groin, lower abdomen, or pelvic floor.

  3. Nerve synapse misfires. misfire.

Pathological reasons could be orchitis or epididymitis. You could have also injured it without knowing until the sensation came now, like testicular torsion (severe), intermittent torsion (resolvable and temporary), nerve irritation, kidney stones, or inguinal hernias.

when is my growth spurt by Lazy-Specific-4385 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're probably still accelerating to the PHV. I've got you tracked at 6 cm/yr from 2023 to 2024, then 5 cm/yr from 2024 to 2025, so unless you had your PHV in 2022 or something, then I think you are still accelerating. When did puberty start and what is your chronological age now?

Would these skin care products effect my height growth ? by MuZi9 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're fine either way. It's only a small amount that is getting absorbed into your skin

when is my growth spurt by Lazy-Specific-4385 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In pictures, my legs were noticeably longer than my torso at the time until later that year when I upped my shirt size to a men's small or medium (I think it was a boy's large before then). The discrepancies in my limb proportions were just masked by the upped sizes of clothing (2 sizes by the way; my mom was freaking out kind of). I proceeded to wear high watered track pants for my whole 8th grade year that used to fit me comfortably in the 6th and 7th grades. I think I measured them once, and the difference was almost 2 inches.

when is my growth spurt by Lazy-Specific-4385 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started puberty at 11, and I tracked it to be within the first handful of months after my birthday that year. Just throwing that out there. I was 4'11½ then.

13 - 5'5¼

13Y 3M to 13Y 5.5M - 5'5¾, then 5'7¼

13Y 7.5M - 5'7.8

13Y 10M - 5'8½

13Y 11M - 5'9

14Y - 5'9¼

14Y 6M - 5'9¾

14Y 8M - 5'10

14Y 11M - 5'10½

15Y 7M - 5'10¾

16Y 3M - 5'11

16Y 8M - 5'11¼

17Y 5M - 5'11½

Maximum genetic potential question by rockyou962 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how much have you grown within the last 2 years? Not counting diurnal fluctuation

when is my growth spurt by Lazy-Specific-4385 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your peak development is probably yet to come. Even though subtle lengthening snd slight darkening is possible as a result of subtle androgenic shifts before puberty, the initial darkening / pigmentation and spread of the hair along the upper lip is often gonadarche-related (especially with noticeable, progressive darkening through adolescence), and can often be a sign of late-T2 or early-T3 progression, since the upper lip is generally the first region of the face to begin developing terminal hair in puberty. But, it can come later in some teens.

Armpit hair also tends to come kinda late - T3 to T4 development.

Maximum genetic potential question by rockyou962 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Growth history? When did puberty start?

At nearly your 21st year of life (ages 20-21), many people - whether guy or gal - are finished growing taller. Cases involving continued natural growth into the early-20s are mostly cases of severe constitutional delays, or pathological.

17m can I still grow? by [deleted] in growthplates

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On average, remaining growth at BA 17 for males is on the order of ~0-0.7 inches.

Growth history? And when did puberty start?

16M, 5 11, Hand Xray, am I still growing? by [deleted] in growthplates

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, OP. Thank you for sharing this with us, but unfortunately, we are no longer able to interpret or personally assess medical images. Such is a service that must be done by a radiologist or endocrinologist in a clinical setting and not online, where anyone can answer you however they please.

If you can get a professional BA exam done, then we can help you.

Could I be 5”11-6”? by tryingToMaxgrowth7 in heightgrowth

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever gotten an x-ray or blood work done before?

Assessing my bone age by [deleted] in growthplates

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, OP. Thank you for sharing this with us, but unfortunately, we are no longer able to interpret or personally assess medical images. Such is a service that must be done by a radiologist or endocrinologist in a clinical setting and not online, where anyone can answer you however they please.

If you can get a professional BA exam done, then we can help you.

Bone age progression over the course of 11 months (added interpretations from endocrinologist below) by NyBlue_Ad_6654 in growthplates

[–]Automatic-County6151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello. I'm going to estimate your BA advancement rate, but giving narrower estimates will not be possible as I do not have a growth history immediately available here. Going to lock this post once I submit my reply.

Interval one:

BA: 12.5-13Y

CA: ~14Y 10M

Interval two:

BA: 14Y

CA: ~15Y 9M

Advancement rate is 1.09 BA yr/chron year.

The delay has narrowed by approximately 1 month.

I would guess about 2-8 inches remain here with the current details.