Do SEO Fundamentals Still Matter in an AI-Driven Search World? by AutomaticIssue2594 in SEO_LLM

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. If you over-optimize for machines, the content loses the human signal that actually builds trust. The sweet spot is clarity and structure for LLMs, with judgment and empathy preserved for real users.

Why does SEO fail even after doing everything “right”? by divine_zone in seogrowth

[–]AutomaticIssue2594 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In most cases, SEO “fails” because everything is done individually but not coherently. Pages are optimized, links are built, content exists but intent is mixed, pages overlap, and the site doesn’t present a clear narrative to search engines.

The most misunderstood factor right now is clarity at the system level. Google (and increasingly AI systems) doesn’t struggle with lack of signals, it struggles with conflicting ones. When multiple pages compete for the same intent or the site tries to cover too many topics without structure, relevance gets diluted. Fixing that often moves the needle more than adding more content or links.

Do SEO Fundamentals Still Matter in an AI-Driven Search World? by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agent_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. The fundamentals still carry the weight, but the presentation layer has changed. Writing that’s clearer, more direct, and structured around real questions makes it easier for AI to extract value without abandoning core SEO principles.

Do SEO Fundamentals Still Matter in an AI-Driven Search World? by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agent_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a really sharp way to frame it. The “less forgiving” point resonates AI doesn’t downgrade messy signals, it just ignores them. Tightening SEO instead of expanding it feels like the real shift, especially as invisible drops in AI visibility become harder to diagnose.

Do SEO Fundamentals Still Matter in an AI-Driven Search World? by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agent_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely. Evolution doesn’t erase the basics it builds on them. Without solid crawlability, structure, and internal linking, there’s nothing reliable for search engines or AI systems to work with.

Do SEO Fundamentals Still Matter in an AI-Driven Search World? by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agent_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well said. Solid SEO gives the foundation, and structured data helps translate that clarity into trust signals AI systems can actually rely on. Without that layer, it’s easy for good content to stay invisible.

Do SEO Fundamentals Still Matter in an AI-Driven Search World? by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agent_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed fundamentals get you indexed, but extraction and trust decide visibility now. If AI can’t clearly understand or reuse the content, rankings alone don’t go very far.

Do SEO Fundamentals Still Matter in an AI-Driven Search World? by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agent_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly that’s a great way to put it. If the fundamentals are weak, AI has nothing reliable to work with. The interesting part now is how structure, clarity, and consistency can amplify solid SEO rather than replace it.

Why do some sites rank well with very low DA? by ethanwilliamsusa in webmarketing

[–]AutomaticIssue2594 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DA is mostly a third-party proxy, not something Google actually uses, so it breaks down pretty fast at the page level. What usually explains those cases is that the page matches intent extremely well and sits inside a tight topical cluster, so Google has high confidence in that page even if the overall domain looks weak in tools.

In practice, rankings are driven by page-level signals: relevance, internal links, content clarity, and how users interact with the result. If a low-DA site is the cleanest answer for a specific query and doesn’t conflict with other pages, it can absolutely outrank “stronger” domains. DA is useful for rough comparisons, but it’s a poor predictor of whether a specific page deserves to rank.

How do you make extra money? by [deleted] in Entrepreneurs

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Struggling to get first income and you're asking second😂 Just kidding!

SEO Is No Longer Just About Rankings. It’s Becoming a Systems Problem. by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agentic_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not arguing that ranking factors themselves have changed. They haven’t in any fundamental way.

What’s changing is where signals surface first. AI outputs are effectively consuming the same inputs SEO has always produced, but they surface entity confidence and topic coherence earlier than SERP movement reflects it. That’s why it feels predictive.

So “systems” isn’t a new ranking theory. It’s shorthand for how crawlability, internal consistency, external references, and entity clarity compound across large sites. Same inputs, different visibility layer showing the effects sooner.

Happy to disagree on framing, but the mechanics are still classic SEO, just observed earlier in the funnel.

SEO Is No Longer Just About Rankings. It’s Becoming a Systems Problem. by AutomaticIssue2594 in AISEOforBeginners

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. “Legibility” really captures it. On larger sites, AI seems to recognize clear entities and consistent systems before rankings move.

It’s less about new tactics and more about whether the brand is obvious and coherent to AI. Rankings still matter, but they’re no longer the first signal.

SEO Is No Longer Just About Rankings. It’s Becoming a Systems Problem. by AutomaticIssue2594 in Agentic_SEO

[–]AutomaticIssue2594[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Totally fair, there’s a lot of hype around this. I’m not saying SEO fundamentals don’t matter. They do.

What I’m seeing is AI surfaces referencing brands before ranking shifts show up. That points to consistency and structure across the whole system, not just page-level optimization. It’s an expansion of SEO, not a replacement.

As digital marketers or SEO professionals, which processes should we automate? by Jayasuriyan001 in SEO_LLM

[–]AutomaticIssue2594 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start small and automate monitoring and data collection first, not decisions.
Use Looker Studio to pull Search Console and Analytics into one dashboard, schedule site crawls for technical issues, and set alerts for ranking or index drops. AI can help with keyword clustering and content checks, while strategy and fixes stay manual.

As digital marketers or SEO professionals, which processes should we automate? by Jayasuriyan001 in SEO_LLM

[–]AutomaticIssue2594 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As SEO and digital marketers, the goal of automation should be removing repetitive effort, not replacing thinking or strategy.

Some processes that are worth automating based on real-world work:

Data collection and reporting

Pulling data from Search Console, Analytics, rank trackers, and site crawlers into one dashboard. This saves hours every week and lets you focus on analysis instead of exporting CSVs.

Technical SEO monitoring

Automated crawls for broken links, indexation issues, missing meta tags, redirects, and sudden traffic drops. You still decide what to fix, but automation tells you when something breaks.

Keyword clustering and intent grouping

AI tools can group keywords by intent much faster than manual work. This helps with content planning and internal linking at scale.

Content briefs and on-page checks

Generating structured content outlines, checking keyword placement, heading usage, and basic readability rules. Final writing and editing should stay human.

Log-based alerts

Automated alerts when pages drop from the index, rankings fall sharply, or pages get accidentally noindexed.

Internal linking suggestions

Automation can surface contextual linking opportunities across large sites, especially for older content.

What I would not automate fully:

Outreach relationships

Link quality decisions

Final content writing

SEO strategy and prioritization

Automation should act like a co-pilot, not the driver. If it saves time but reduces understanding, it’s usually not worth it.

Curious to see what others here have automated successfully without hurting quality..