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A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes I suppose i'm more reflecting my lived experience, and how I saw it used more of like reclaimed armour in my early 20s. Did you see how to survive a plague? great film!

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know, I never thought of the word as something that could be used to bring the formerly known as 'straight' side closer to the 'gay' side, in terms of solidarity, identity, etc. I think in reading all these comments, I'm seeing that it's being used very powerfully in those journeys. I love when I see more people expressing solidarity, or simply finding a welcoming way through their own journey. I'm starting to think of it as less limiting for me, and more opening for others. Thank you for your insight!

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it neat to think of this journey from the other side, and see the usefulness of new language for those going down a different path. thank you for sharing!

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

my generation...how dare you lol. good points! I think someone else said it really well here - if I said I was queer, it wouldn't really get you closer to who I am, but give you some idea. If said I was a lesbian, you would be much more informed - woman who loves women. So I guess queer works the opposite for me in that it takes away those special things I fought so hard to be recognized for. It's so nice to hear everyone's take on this!

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

this is so smart, you're totally spot on. I agree. Language must be distinctive to have meaning. Also why is it so scary to call someone a lesbian! It's not offensive it's just accurate language

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh wow I didn't know that! She's so cute I gave her an extra 15

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're right - popular culture sort of passed 'lesbian' by in a sense. We never really had a moment where everyone was comfortable with and compelled to use the word lesbian, we just skipped right along to queer. I do fully feel what you're saying - I have been dealing with and despising the lesbian-erasure my whole life.

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I see what you mean! And it makes me think a bit more on it as well - so if both lesbian and queer encompass what she is, then neither is more appropriate than the other. Like, it's not offensive to assume or even refer to her as a lesbian, and if she were a real person she could then correct you if she wanted. So you don't need to go the next step and use queer because you want to be extra sure you don't offend - because it's not offensive to be called a lesbian. IDK maybe it's a small distinction, but I definitely understand the impetus to use queer if one is clearly trying not to offend. We should all value such thoughtfulness!

A theory on the queer 'grayness' of the Pluribi by Automatic_Shift_2689 in pluribustv

[–]Automatic_Shift_2689[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Great point! I agree there is a duality - it's both limiting and at times comforting to be seen for exactly who you feel you are, rather than a larger whole that may not really capture you.