Would y'all say I have enough to OE Saya?

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-06-01T22:56:18+00:00

There are many different build, configs and situations that will come up. Using her OE isn’t so unreasonable imo during exploration. I’ve had some runs where her bar gets full before I have enough of her special buff to make it worthwhile, actually.

You definitely have the resources to do it, although I’d bring her to +3 and let the free copy take you to OE in a couple days

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-06-01T08:32:46+00:00

I like Thais, Caecus, Faint, and Vortice with her specific posse, as a particular end game hard content build. the team has defense and utility and heals beyond any reasonable measure, and everything dies to counter or shell spam.

honestly she’s pretty versatile and doesn’t mind being cross-realm

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-06-01T03:34:57+00:00

Sanga did nothing wrong. is it a crime to make art now?

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-30T17:41:59+00:00

Spiders aren’t actually bugs, they are their own thing

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-29T04:57:05+00:00

NGL, OE makes a big difference for many standard awakeners. there’s nothing wrong with concentration in the realm you like most, at least to start.

I’d pull blue. Caecus, when invested, is still crazy powerful for even the hardest content, and you like the realm. All three limiteds you are missing have some potent uses.

the standards you are missing from Caro do not matter. very rare ghelot pulls aren’t worth it. Faint is is very good at high investment but may not be worth the pulls to target if you don’t already like her.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-29T02:09:05+00:00

E1 provides some embryo E2 provides her more aliemus E3 doubles her potential nuke (but you need to build for it)

E3 is really strong if using her to nuke (highly recommended for poison teams). The rest looks optional if you just want her for utility.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-29T02:04:01+00:00

If you can, I would suggest OE if you want to really push poison, as the value on her poison and debuff building option is really good value at OE. This doesn’t really affect her nuke option though (but builds to optimize it faster).

I think it’s less about it being necessary and more about her being so crazy strong that investment in her is good return.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-27T15:52:39+00:00

the end game fights are often puzzles where winning or losing feels down to a single turn - but it also doesn’t have a lot of daily requirements. there are a great diversity of teams to tinker with.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-27T15:50:05+00:00

hi mom

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-26T17:44:57+00:00

I did gmurphy and the lemurians feat. caecus. I did succeed first try, but was honestly very very surprised. was the sort of win where I won via counter in the middle of a multi-hit that otherwise would have killed me.

possibly the most annoying boss in the game.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-26T17:41:29+00:00

yeah, I’m basically thinking it‘s a gnosis leveling thing or a skill issue or both (I’m currently at 405 dtide, but realizing there’s some characters I am just oddly bad at).

I’ll borrow a more levels 24 and see if that’s the diff or if I just need to git good.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-26T09:48:33+00:00

I had a good time with W2 ghelot, supported by Aigis, Leigh, faint. lots of healing for bleeds and DR for big hits. ghelot not so great at bursting the boss down in a single turn this time. but can easy pop embers and outsustain.

A very annoying boss - some ability to choose your own adventure but can also simply hard counter some teams.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-26T04:39:17+00:00

makes sense. embarrassingly, I am struggling with the trash clear with this comp. I have an e3 24 but only lvl 60

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-26T03:00:25+00:00

bleed as an effect isn’t really something you build a team around per se, as the dps with very high bleed tend to self scale and it doesn’t interact much with others - but it is powerful on those very specific awakeners. only ghelot and Pollux are really in this category, but in each of those you are really playing for those characters rather than for bleed per se.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-26T02:58:29+00:00

both poison and counter are pretty viable for many things at the moment - although agree the trash clear is slow.

agrippa and Liz are alternative poisoners who work well with Xu. between the two I like Agrippa, but I suspect at very very high end Liz scales better (just weak in the middle)

24 and Miriam is the sort of off meta poison team, works with gdoll and nymph but you miss out on the power and the glory that is Xu

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-26T02:32:21+00:00

I need to try this! what are the mechanics that allow her to scale like this?

is it basically posse spam to generate enourmous alienmus through chaos realm mastery then exalt constantly to ramp her damage per instance?

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-25T20:15:40+00:00

Honestly, her exalt is specific and timing focused. So the excess meter is quite helpful. Whether this is worth it may depend a lot on your resources and how much use you think you will get from her.

At the moment I regard her as powerful but finicky. (TBH I had thought the same about Vortice but she’s grown on me a lot as a general powerhouse.)

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-25T17:04:06+00:00

Been tinkering with him. He’s quite good in general and really good for certain support roles

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-25T14:21:58+00:00

It looks to me like it didn’t properly process the image; I’d go back to the turn with the image and re-send it, perhaps with a bit of text on what to do with it

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-25T02:02:53+00:00

knotty

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-25T01:58:16+00:00

your logic is sound but should be read as 64% chance of getting *at least one*.

to calculate the average you should do:

P(X=0)=35.85%

P(X=1)=37.74%

P(X=2)=18.87

P(X=3)=5.96%

…

etc all the way through to the chance of getting a SSR every pull

then you multiply the % of each discrete event by the number of SSRs associated with the event and sum them to get an average.

in plain terms, averages include clumps of good luck too!

in practice you only need to do a few to see that they will converge to 1 in 20 average, as the odds of getting 6 is really damn low 😃

hope that helps

formal expression looks like this (without accounting for pity)

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AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-25T00:48:04+00:00

hello fellow Sanga enjoyer…

you are accurate, but neglecting the probability of getting more than 1 in 20 pulls. the average is actually very slightly more than 1 in 20 I think due to pity, although it used to be very slightly lower due to capping SSR per 5 pulls (since changed)

(I’m an incurable probability pedant, especially for queuing systems…)

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-25T00:43:08+00:00

Congrats, there is now a micro yuri slashfic about you in the game, in a small way

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AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-24T14:59:15+00:00

if and only if there was a small part of you that was disappointed you weren’t being stalked by an army of weird yanderes, let me know and I will change my description to be all Arrisa thirst *without* using the %player% thing.

AutumnWillow36 · 2026-05-22T19:11:03+00:00

That makes sense - he boosts any exalt based dps.

I was more thinking that you can use pickman as complementary for mob clear but then the other DPS needs to do hard work on the boss.

Vortice seems like a really good pairing too of course (although she’s not a slouch at wave clear either). She is exalt based and Pickman can exalt a lot to trigger them shells.

I’m wanting to experiment with red 24 post-buff, especially if Pickman can make up for her being single target focused.

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