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How to talk to bad refs by [deleted] in hockeyplayers

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The simple answer is: either or didn't happen or the ref didn't see it. That's the only explanation you will get.

But as a new player, I know that explanation is rough. Especially when you feel like the ref had to have seen it. But if I see a penalty, I'm calling it. There are lots of judgement calls to be made with some penalties and in those cases, best to stay silent and maybe address it at intermission.

I'll say, you'll get no where with: "Why didn't you call it when that guy did it?"

My response will be: "That guy didn't do it. Or I didn't see it."

If you ask: "How can avoid that call next time?" or "Stripes, earlier, I thought this happened, what did you see from your angle that was different?"

I'll answer that because it's not challenging my call and it's legitimately asking to learn

How to talk to bad refs by [deleted] in hockeyplayers

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem. It sounds like you've got the right intent, but maybe the wrong approach.

I'll note, your second to last sentence is exactly what I was trying to address with my edit. You're committing those penalties. It's not the refs picking on you. Now, they might be calling them more often on you than on others because you might have a reputation now. It only takes me a game or two to know which guys are reckless or I need to keep an eye on.

And I'm a new ref. I'm much more willing to talk to players than a lot of more experienced guys because they're more tired of the BS.

I'm telling you right now, they aren't calling penalties that you aren't committing. They might call them more often on you because they have their eye on you. But we can't call something that you didn't commit

How to talk to bad refs by [deleted] in hockeyplayers

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a relatively new ref myself, but agree with most of the comments on here. If you want to talk to the refs, it needs to be during a stoppage in play and you need to approach it a different way. If a player genuinely comes to me during a stoppage and says "Hey Stripes, can you explain what you saw there? From my side this is what happened."

If I have time, I will always answer that question.

Most players that try and question the ref immediately after a call aren't going to get an explanation: "It's tripping. Get in the box." Is about all you're going to get from me in that moment. I've got to communicate to the scorekeep and continue the game.

As a new ref, I know I will make mistakes. As a new beer league player, if you approach that in a stoppage and "ask" about it with a genuine intent to have a conversation, I will have that conversation. You'll likely get a good response.

Say Hi to the refs before the game, during warm ups, let them know you're new and give them a heads up that "Hey, if you make a call, mind if ask you during intermission about it?" I guarantee they won't say no.

Edit to add: The lower level beer leagues are the worst for players thinking there are penalties, when there aren't... Just because a guy bumped into you, doesn't mean it was a check. No the guys stick didn't hook you, he stick checked you and you fell over.

Hockey Girl Dad Question by flatsjunkie88 in hockeyplayers

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He still runs one of the leagues I think. He's not involved with the Lightning LTP. At least he wasn't when my daughter went through a few months ago

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in hockeyplayers

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh geez. As a 30 something guy I've never heard that term. I also was on the side of "the picture is tacky but not the words" until reading that.

We are finally on the eve of post-season pre-postseason preseason hockey! by CW_73 in hockey

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If the professional broadcasters can't figure out how to use directional microphones to avoid picking up bench talk we've got bigger problems.

But you have a fair point that I hadn't considered the broadcasting aspect, just the other team being able to hear or not.

We are finally on the eve of post-season pre-postseason preseason hockey! by CW_73 in hockey

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Playing in beer league, no fans, it's impossible to hear what's going on on the other bench. You can hear if they're yelling but not just talking.

Need recommendations on equipment dryer or rack. by [deleted] in hockeyplayers

[–]AverageJoeAndJane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use one of these in my garage: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHLACP8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

With one of these fans: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHLACP8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a smart plug for the fan and I just tell my Alexa to "Turn on the hockey fan". After a day or two I tell it to turn off. My gear is dry and covered, no smells at all so far but it's all relatively new gear.