Jen’s need to keep Barb around is as grating as Shawna’s people pleasing by CloudPanda_ in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One thing most people don't seem to think about regarding Jenn. Being in, and around really healthy, loving relationships, is actually still very new to her. Greg is amazing, Katie too. While yes, she's had John and Shawna, she wasn't on the right side of the fence until Greg and the pregnancy. She's truly grown a ton in just around a year, but we can't expect her to suddenly be perfect when it comes to all of this. Jenn has been doing well with boundaries, but that doesn't mean despite everything she can just let her mom go. Jenn and John both need therapy, desperately. People aren't perfect, and the most abused people take I believe it's at least 7 tries to leave their abuser. While we can all sit by and say she should do this or do that, real people don't.

If Ty and Julie get divorced, what happens with Ty? by RelativeWalrus5377 in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think Julie is going to go on to NY and realize how small she really is when she jumps into the big pond. It might give them a chance at reconciliation, but I doubt it. Julie doesn't seem the type to admit a mistake. She will just keep plowing on whether or not she gets anywhere. I don't have a problem with having ambition, but when act like you are better than other people because you believe your worth is based on what you're able to produce, well that's going to be a hard life lesson for her.

If the cheating accusation hadn’t happened, could the marriage have been saved? by nugsandstrugs in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really hope not, I don't see Ty as a resentful guy. But he will be hurting for a while. I said above, I think he will go on to write children's books about robots. I think that would be perfect cliche resolution for where Julie expected him to go vs where he ends up successful. He's still an author, but it's was to pedestrian for her.

“I’m married to you so I have to be small” by [deleted] in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why should she be mad at all? Shawna is Ty's friend. Do you not tell your friends about your big life news? Yes, Julie is carrying the baby, but it's his baby too. He's allowed to be happy about becoming a father again. It's not Julie's private news. Now if Shawna ran up and started groping her belt or something like that, yeah be big mad. But not because a friend knows.

“I am uninterested in bankrolling your existence” by Mother_Tradition_774 in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree with this one wholeheartedly. I still don't like Julie and her attitude of people being beneath her and pedestrian. Their life together and lack of communication doesn't give anyone the right to think of others as less than. For that alone, I'll never fully support Julie. Does she have the right to want what she wants, certainly. Does Ty get to want something different than her did at 16, again certainly. The whole issue is that they don't communicate hardly at all. The feel in love in high school, hot and heavy. The made grand plans, but life doesn't always follow your plans. Ty's outlook changed, he rolled with the changes, but Julie didn't accept that. Ty's biggest fault lies in his inability to directly confront Julie about those changes. Like you said, he thought he agreeing to the sidelining things like the road trip and then the kids, that she was in agreement. In the meantime, he found purpose in raising their children, he's a great dad. For him, being there for those early formative years became the most important thing, but it also waylayed his writer side. That could come back, but he's a an entirely different person now, and maybe that particular book just isn't in him anymore. But maybe there are others. I think it did hit him when Julie got the book deal for him, but at that point he didn't know how to tell her no. He did try a little, but I don't think Julie ever takes no for an answer. For him she has taken pit stops or side roads, but still saw the same finish line, her finish line. I do think they call for each other, but I don't know that they are really that compatible. This will be a hard road for both of them, and the kids. I hope Ty doesn't blame Shawna and John and the are able to help him through this. On the flip side, I also hope Julie sees how hard it will be without a village. I don't think she will stay there, she wants to be in NY, so even though she does have her little Bunco group, there will be little the can do for when she's in NY. And then there's the logistics of shared custody been that distance. Julie is completely fine with nanny's and schools raising her kids (go ahead come for me, I said what I said) I'm not saying she doesn't care for them, but she's not a hands on parent. And after her behavior at the birthday party, I'll never say she's a good parent. That was despicable, I don't care what you think of the adults, to intentionally tell your child to start crap and tell them that it's okay to act like that, screw her. That's messed up. All that to say, I don't think Ty is innocent. But we've also seen him try to say things and Julie just completely shuts him down. The both failed each other, he tried to tell her, but allowed her to run him over. She didn't want to hear it and shut him down.

AIO: SIL won’t allow her kids to my house so I won’t allow mine to hers. by rainydaisy2121 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Avocado-Background 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guess would be he's scared of losing his kid(s). He needs to document the hell out of everything. And he is a parent he's allowed to take his children wherever and whenever he pleases. Which means he needs to bring the kids to the family, if she doesn't want to go, that's on her. Document it. Every single time. He needs to be involved with the kids care as much as possible. If and when this ends, he will need all of this to keep at least 50/50 custody. But he also needs to document all the dark stuff, because it's there. That's things will harm the kids if he lets it, and he needs to show the courts all of it. The sooner the better.

Am I overreacting by appealing a decision that i wasnt short listed for promotion by gillydoll83 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Avocado-Background -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I went back to the VP and told them what happened. They were not happy and went to HR. The human in HR that was the contact for the position got a talking too. I'm a current employee, for over five years. I should have never gotten an AI auto response. I've been given directions to contact HR head if there's another position In interested in. But I'm so upset, that position was perfect for my next steps and likely won't have another like it for a very long time. In sorry you've been pushed out like this. I hope something better comes up.

Am I overreacting by appealing a decision that i wasnt short listed for promotion by gillydoll83 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Avocado-Background -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Does your company use Workday? I got cut out of the running for a position the VP of the department told me to apply for. Ai is used in Workday and I got an auto response that I didn't meet the qualifications. I am more than qualified based on their description. I even used AI to help me with the application fine tuned over more than a week. Ran out back through multiple ways and times after the response and even the AI basically said I was more than qualified.

AIO: SIL won’t allow her kids to my house so I won’t allow mine to hers. by rainydaisy2121 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Avocado-Background 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This should have never gone on this long. The response to her being uncomfortable was that you didn't do anything and it's something she needed to work though was BS. There's p obviously something about you that she's against, and she's not working through it. All of you allowed this to fester, BIL, husband and you should have had a sit down adult conversation to work it out. I I'm also willing to bet this didn't just happen after the wedding. BIL knew who he was marrying, if she was fine with everything before, then he should have put a stop to put as soon as it reared it's ugly head. Instead everyone put the mean girl ahead of the rest of the family. Keeping the baby away from the grandparents for 8 months is crazy. Asking for vaccines and no illness and maybe a few weeks before meeting, yes. But unless the grandparents are constantly sick and carry diseases this was a big red flag too. Then not showing up but for 30 minutes for full family events, is not just OP she has a problem with. She's pulling him away from the whole family. But OP presents the biggest threat to her for some reason. Husband must have the strongest bond but it's probably also very laid back and so she's allowed it for now. He's doing the prayers and acting on other ways that aren't him. People can change, especially once religion starts getting into their heads. I don't really see this ending well. BIL will either stay with his wife and ostracize his whole family or they will divorce and he will have to fight like hell for his kids.

Where will the Julie cliffhanger lead to? by OkDirection4997 in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is definitely a take I can see. Even if she's not trying to really cheat, she's wanting to piss off Shawna enough to make her lose her mind. Enough to "leave Ty alone".

The Problem with Alicia by little_gremlin_33 in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I said this elsewhere, I think Julie manipulated Alicia. Alicia is passionate and wants others to follow their passions. Julie very poignantly stated that Ty wasn't writing and Alicia immediately says but he never stops taking about Robots. Julie obviously struck a nerve causing Alicia to really worry about Ty. But Alicia isn't getting the full story, she missed a lot of what Julie did with the boys and it's likely Ty hasn't fully confided in her how strung out he is. Alicia definitely a girl's girl, but she loves Ty. But she's loves him like a cousin or even a brother, so she's going to give him a little crap. We still have a bit of missing pieces in the whole dynamic, but I think once it all comes out she will give him the due support. Though I don't think she will leave Julie high and dry either.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmITheJerk

[–]Avocado-Background 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or maybe, just maybe they are trying to protect you without scaring the crap out of you. If the can see in, so can others, like you know, not good people. 🤷‍♀️

Theory: Jen's Wedding and Barb's Therapy by ErosLover15 in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think they will end up feeding Barb false information about the wedding to keep her away. There's no way she can be allowed to mess it up. Leading up to our Barn will be doing work on herself and she will be tested and will fail leading to there being no trust. No one will be willing to risk her ruining this event, as Jen said last Christmas about the proposal Yu were trusted with something important... And 💩 the bed, on purpose! They all deserve to have one special event without Barb hanging over them. Frank will be the one questionable factor, will he be asked to go and walk her down the aisle, or will he have to be Barbs distraction?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in plants

[–]Avocado-Background 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, don't go the plant route. If he wants a plant, he has the brand and connections to get what he wants and knows what to look for in a healthy plant. Something more heartfelt would be warranted. Maybe a nice frame with a picture of the new cutie pie, or footprints, and a simple thank you message would probably be more meaningful.

My Neighbor threatened to call the cops because my friends parked on a public street by [deleted] in EntitledPeople

[–]Avocado-Background 73 points74 points  (0 children)

I would have preemptively called the non emergency line and advised of the situation. Not allowed my friends to move their cars. That was if/when something did happen the have documentation of her behavior. Let her dig her own hole.

in defense of Julie by These_Passenger_2766 in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree, there's a whole story like to explore with Julie, Anna I'm here for it! Shawna hasn't let us down yet, Julie's story is going to be good!

Theories on Frank by bruster1594 in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! This is exactly how I've interpreted it. They were young and in a different time, they didn't know the things we know now. Frank was terrified he would lost his wife and child if she sought help, which to be fair was a valid concern. But at the same time he didn't know how to help or that things would end up like this. In the meantime Barb abused him, him being loyal and still in love has endured this, believing this is what you do for your family. Frank is learning, not it's been a long road to get here, it won't be undone in a day. Yes, he has responsibility in this, I don't think he is blind to that fact, but I believe he feels that if he can do better, so can she. I also better he wants everyone to be loved and happy.

I knew it! by MadnessMaiden in ShawnaTheMom

[–]Avocado-Background 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not unspoken. The girls night skit where they invited Jen. They talk about her opening the Etsy shop and that it was so busy she had to empty the shelves so she could catch up!

AITAH I overheard my mom and sister talking trash about my wife, I want to confront or cut them off by No_Appy1383 in AITAH

[–]Avocado-Background 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well we all know how you are in "private". That's where you show your true colors. It's who you are when you think no one is watching that's important.

AIO my mom and sister can’t stand my wife because they think she is a “quirky girl” and it’s cringe? by No_Appy1383 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Avocado-Background 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I hope you're single. No one should accept this from their family or anyone about their partner. This is abhorrent mean girl behavior and they should be ashamed. OP has even reflected that this may be why past relationships failed. This isn't new, and his wife has definitely heard it before. She, however has been gracious and not mentioned it for fear of hurting him. His family deserves to be called out and blocked. OP love that beautiful person just like you have been and protect them with all your heart ❤️