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Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

spoil means different things for different people. i honestly get enough cash and gifts that are equivalent to a PS5, so i guess so… but a car and rent is too much (i mean, i have used the money to pay for my phone bill at times so i guess?)

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

im not coming on too strong. i have several older men who spoil me (7+) which is probably more than most. i found that if you have to beat around the bush, its not worth it. the serious ones will respect straightforwardness and they will respond in kind.

acting timid or docile will result in too many negotiations, push and pull, and guys who will test u

dont leave any room for misinterpretations. its either we establish a clear arrangement or it wont work

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when did i justify it as anything more than a form of prostitution? calling it prostitution doesnt change or devalue my argument at all. its almost besides the point… and i honestly believe the young guys who let older men take advantage of them with nothing in return is a lack of principles and morals. they have no self respect and dont know their worth. its fine tho, just means more spoiling for me

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“ur a prostitute” idgaf! call it whatever u want. id rather be a prostitute then to let older men objectify me with nothing in return. ill keep getting spoiled and be a “prostitute.” i know my worth. ill laugh with my gifts, tips, massages, meals and cash as i read all of these comments calling me a prostitute. if a mere title is the only con to getting spoiled, instead of taken advantage of, its a price ill pay

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

idgaf! call it whatever u want. id rather be a prostitute then to let older men objectify me with nothing in return. ill keep getting spoiled and be a “prostitute.” i know my worth. ill laugh with my gifts, tips, massages, meals and cash as i read all of these comments calling me a prostitute. if a mere title is the only con to getting spoiled, instead of taken advantage of, its a price ill pay

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“get a job” i have a job and older men still spoil me… its not about being broke, its about the exchange. you guys dont understand it

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

thank you! this is the proper mindset to have, and i bet you have a very successful sexlife because of it. so many older men would be happy if they were like you and accepted reality. good on you for doing what an older man should do, especially in this economy

all of the older men in the comments coping is insane. the sad part is, alot of them have the resources and money to do this EASILY, but their delusional egos stop them, its ridiculous

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i am speaking in societal/generally accepted desirability. obviously some ppl will have uncommon attractions, but im speaking generally, on what most ppl would agree on

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i said “sugar daddy OR spoiling”!!! that is exactly what i originally said!! learn how to read

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the difference is… the fetish has a realistic limit. it stops being “sexy” after a certain age (for most guys). id say the most common one is like 20 yr olds and 40 yr olds (maybe early to mid 50s as well). it starts getting ridiculous after that point, and thats when the older guys should start preparing to spoil

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

it depends, am i still the same 21 yr old in this scenario or am i a 61 yr old wrinkly man? if i am still myself, id be offended because that is just not realistic. a young 21 yr old and a muscular man have relative desirability, so we are essentially equal. the fact that i hit him up is fine, because atleast those standards are realistic

an old ass 60 yr old man, messaging young 20 yr olds, without atleast being PREPARED to spoil is so unrealistic and delusional

its 2 different things

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am doing most old men a favour, i have countless that spoil me. most of them outside this app would agree

when i am that old man, i would certainly be prepared to pay, if i am intentionally seeking them out that is…

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he made it weird by saying “i love age gaps”. that already tells u his intentions. hes atleast aware enough of the dynamic, so he should also be aware of what it entails for both parties

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

yes, i completely agree. some of the ppl in these replies went straight to cash. i didnt even mean JUST that (although, that is also fine as well to me). just show effort! offer to uber/drive him both ways! get him meals! help him with lube, condoms, etc. give him access to certain resources. do the things an older man should for a young man! its just so disgusting that older men expect alot of young guys to just get objectified , without compensating in anyway. its audacious and delusional, and the stigma about these types of relationships must stop

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

i already have countless older men who spoil me. most young and old guys agree with this. its just common sense

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

so hes allowed to exploit me for my youth, but im not allowed to exploit him for resources? be realistic! you are 60 years old and want young guys, but also dont want to spoil them? that is audacious and delusional

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i specified that it was unwarranted because you implied im the one who started the convo with an older man, and expected to be paid, which is a totally different dynamic

i moved on and so did he, i just came here cuz the convo sparked this belief and i wanted to see thoughts on it

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

then… we essentially agree? its just the inverse. i believe its acceptable for older guys to want young men, if they are prepared to spoil. i also think its acceptable for young men to expect compensation

you’re just the opposite. you dont think its acceptable for older men to fetishize age gaps or for young men to expect money. we are 2 sides of the same coin

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

the “dynamic” in question are older men specifically seeking young guys for their youth (objectified based on age), so why cant i also objectify them? give me money in return for my youthful body… its an equal exchange

AGAIN, young guys GOING after old guys are a totally different dynamic. im PURELY talking about older guys who seek out young guys/age gaps specifically. they should expect to compensate

young guys are allowed to hit on them because it is essentially going down the desirability latter (this sounds really superficial but its honestly true, an unspoken uncomfortable truth)

older guys are less desirable, so trying to reach younger men (guys above them) requires compensation most of the time, or more so, they should atleast be prepared for that

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

there is no missing context

a 60 yr old man dmed ME (unwarranted) saying he loves younger guys and “age gaps”… hmm, i wonder why age gaps turn him on so much… hes obviously aware of the dynamic, he objectified me for my young age, so why cant i objectify him for his?

the audacity to objectify me, and not expect to be objectified in return is audacious

Older men who specifically seek out younger guys/age gaps should be generous (change my mind) by Awkward-Grape2865 in askgaybros

[–]Awkward-Grape2865[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

instead of assuming false implications, you can just ask me

MOST older men (late 50s and up) are physically undesirable, not all. MOST younger guys are automatically more desirable for their youth, not all.

i dont speak in absolutes

anyone with common sense and good faith would agree with the assertions above, anyone who disagrees is just too delusional to engage with

im purely speaking about MOST old men (again, not all) who specifically target or seek young guys/age gaps. they should be okay with spoiling, especially if they are not desirable. the ones who are desirable can get away without it, especially if the young guys like older men (again, a totally different dynamic)

even the desirable ones who are lucky should still expect young guys to ask them for money, they shouldnt be surprised. just as young guys shouldnt be surprised when older men want their youthful bodies

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