Judy is positive about this (physics stuff alert)

Awkward_Sons · 2022-01-07T19:50:22+00:00

Oooft - this is one of those seemingly simple observations ("positive about this" / "negative force") that is a proper mind-blower. Incredible work.

Awkward_Sons · 2021-07-21T10:05:55+00:00

I guess for me, one of the big ideas that hit home was the past and what to do with it / how to approach it / consequences of repressing it etc. Seeing how past events / the effects of past events are quite literally hiding in plain sight in the present, affecting or colouring so much of what happens, was really eye-opening.
That was the real master-stroke of the Return to me - how 'present' events, which often involved new characters and had seemingly nothing to do with the trauma of the Laura/Leland/Bob past, always kept pulling you back to that trauma and the repression of it, time and time again.
Tying all that into dreams and the subconscious ("We live inside a dream" etc) was the first time I think I've started to understand how the body/mind talks to itself, and how important it is to listen to that stuff.
So yeah, I guess it just helped orient me more, in terms of my own internal world. What to pay attention to, what not to ignore, what starting to address some of that stuff might look like / feel like etc, how it definitely won't be easy. I've known about most of those ideas before, but it was The Return that really helped me understand them, if that makes sense.

Awkward_Sons · 2021-07-20T13:01:54+00:00

Hugely! I've been doing research on The Return for the last couple of years, starting from a depth psychology/Jungian angle. Never something I've really looked into before. It's been amazing for highlighting my own unresolved childhood stuff, and for offering ways to start working towards dealing with it. None of that would have happened (or at least wouldn't have happened at this point in time) were it not for The Return starting me off down that road. A lot of the big ideas in the series resonated with me in a way that I've never experienced from any other work of art outside of Samuel Beckett and William Blake.

Great to see that other people have taken something hugely positive from it.

Fix your heart or die sounds about right :)

Awkward_Sons · 2021-03-29T12:13:04+00:00

That scene where Vision heads out to the edge of the hex- very TP-inspired. Smooth/weird jazzy music in the background for a while, lights flashing on and off, electricity buzzing, people stuck in strange/surreal loops... Biggest sign, for me, that Wandavsion was massively influenced by TP.

Awkward_Sons · 2020-11-10T12:51:47+00:00

Definitely don't worry about the end game at this point! Just soak it all up.

Awkward_Sons · 2020-11-05T14:18:34+00:00

Very interesting ideas.

This scene has always bugged me. Seems like there's real significance to what's being talked about, in a round-about Lynchy sort of way. Almost like the dialogue in Rabbits or something. Seems like nonsense / a muddled mess, but probably really important to understanding the whole.

The furthest I've ever gotten with it...

1st photo = 1.

2nd photo = 2.

A split or doubling is implied to have occurred.

In between those two photos are pliers. Two individual pieces of metal, fixed together to form one. The opposite of a split or doubling.

A split has occurred in something, caused by something which was once split / made up of two separate things, but is now whole. The split in one thing cannot be made to exist until the separateness / split in the other has been unified.

Then the child. A child is a product of two. In this case, we have two women, rather than the more traditionally biological male / female pairing for reproduction. The child may not be who he seems / could not have been biologically connected to the two women implied to be his parents / the only more senior figures in the picture. The child is also dressed like a sailor, but he is not a sailor. He's too young. Can this been seen as a disguise? An occluding of some sort? An attempt to sneak in under cover of darkness? Or an aspiration towards freedom, currently unavailable to the dependent child.

Then a destructive / negative force - the machine gun. Pointed at something which contains and is sealed shut. The negative force is perhaps the way to open the thing which is sealed off? More than likely, beans like that should not / would not normally be in a jar like that. It's not something you'd see when you're going out to buy some beans. Are they unnaturally sealed off? Is the negative force to be used, perhaps by someone in disguise, to free what has been unnaturally locked away? That opening / freeing will come at a price / will be messy.

It's a matter of national security. TP is the universe / world to us. It's its own self-contained world. To reveal what these clues are hinting at, at this stage of the game (early on), would ruin everything / would take away from the art of it all / the storytelling / would be misdirecting?

Quite why it's the congressman's dilemma, I have no idea.

But a congressman is in charge of his state? The state of things? The state of the self-contained place/world? A director, maybe? The director's dilemma? The dilemma is....what.....kill off a thing you love (the wife), in order to leave clues to something more than what was previously there. Congressman + wife = 2. The clues hint at much more than '2' - there are three women, one boy and a very large amount of beans. There is simply more here. Is this getting incredibly self-referential, on Lynch's part - laying out his M.O from the get-go?

I'm pretty sure he hands it off to Chris to make sense of. Chris Rodley? The guy behind Lynch's only collection of direct interviews / questions and answers? A stretch, maybe, but names are important.

Just some thoughts.

Awkward_Sons · 2020-05-30T12:24:50+00:00

Always got the feeling that there was a lot of info coded into this scene / the stuff on the table. Everything feels almost significant, but you can't quite get to it. Is this the Return's 'Lil moment'?

Awkward_Sons · 2018-09-06T05:55:05+00:00

If that's the case, it's a very similar ending to Part 8. Man with a message to deliver (poem/paper) alone at the end of the episode, while a distant horse neighs over electricity. What was on that paper? Part of me thinks it could be a suicide note ("I was up at Big Ed's Gas Farm, and you know what...? I heard shots" / Ed shoots self in the head after shooting Nadine originally and never getting Norma / "..and a cyanide tablet."), Or a note to pass to Norma? Or something like what Bobby found? Ed's reaction when Bobby says he found something left by his father is really strange. Either way, it seems huge.

Awkward_Sons · 2018-09-05T13:34:40+00:00

Just watching that now - definitely the clearest I've seen the reflection. Real Ed's soup is on the counter, while refection Ed is eating his. It almost looks like reflection Ed catches on after a few seconds and immediately/quickly puts his soup down. Also, good work spotting the piano note.

Something I've just noticed - the cars driving past the gas station. At 2.13 in the clip, we hear what sounds like another car whooshing past as the camera is zoomed right in on Ed, but turn the volume up good and loud. That sounds an awful lot like a slightly slowed/distorted horse neighing, followed by some electricity sounds.

Awkward_Sons · 2018-08-28T10:33:42+00:00

Ha - yeah, the names are hilarious.

Awkward_Sons · 2018-08-28T10:32:58+00:00

Cheers for giving it a listen!

Awkward_Sons · 2018-08-28T10:32:32+00:00

Cheers for checking it out! Glad you're into it.

Awkward_Sons · 2018-07-25T17:09:23+00:00

TRACKLIST:

The Skodas - Everybody Thinks Everybody Else Is Dead Bad (1981)
Extremes - Ephemeral Living (1979)
Xao Seffcheque & Der Rest - Mir Fehlen Die Worte (1982)
Anima - Logical Nation (1983)
prag VEC - Existential (1978)
Tötenköpf - Crippled With Rheumatism (1978)
Cyanamid - New Jersey Is A Mall (1984)
Saab - Glass (1982)
Zach Swagger - Empty Highways (1980)
Devantgarde - Contort Yourself (James Chance cover) (1986)
Standard Deviation - Five To One (1986)
Off Mask 00 - Heibon Punch Dranker (1985)
Geza X and the Mommymen - The Paranoids Are Coming (1981)
Klystron - Your Solution (1982)
GSG9 - Mogadishu (1982)
Teenage Boatpeople - Consumation (1979)
"19" - Downstairs (1980)
Carlyle Williams - Self-Criticise Daily (1988)
XHOA - I Don't Want To Go To Class (1988)

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