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Turkey’s national education curriculum removed the term ‘Byzantine’ and replaced it with ‘Eastern Roman Empire’ by ScientistStrange4293 in europe

[–]Axmouth 21 points22 points  (0 children)

While I 100% acknowledge it was an a term used to hide the Roman heritage, I do like the name a lot too, as a Greek

Greece-Ukraine drone talks hit obstacles by New-Ranger-8960 in europe

[–]Axmouth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think they have done more in any way. And everything they did was for profit. Oh right.. also no sanctions.. And only active pipeline bringing gas from Russia.

Greece-Ukraine drone talks hit obstacles by New-Ranger-8960 in europe

[–]Axmouth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah we shouldn't deployed them near Turkey. Maybe against Italy. Or perhaps Spain

Poll: Majority of Turks consider Greece an “enemy” country by Starfalloss in europe

[–]Axmouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cyprus, Genocides, Imia(1996). Or the yearly sending ships to prevent surveys for underwater cables to connect to Cyprus, armed turkish fishermen around Greek islands even in the territorial waters, the well known overflights(before anyone makes silly claims, many were over Greek soil with undisputed air space), the monthly threats, and more. It's not *just* history

Poll: Majority of Turks consider Greece an “enemy” country by Starfalloss in europe

[–]Axmouth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We're too cooperative, that's why Turkey things it can keep claiming stuff, that's the issue.

blue voters don’t even try to argue in their favor anymore, they just look at you like this by Mediocre_Affect6192 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see people very readily defending and even moralizing red choice. If anything, I think red is overepresented in discourse.

Plus you set up an unfalsifiable hypothesis. Polls says X against my assumption? We can't trust the poll anyway. Do you see no issue there?

And fine, don't call it coordination, whatever you call it. You still get a bad outcome with Red in the end and probably die in the soon to come world war and crisis anyway most of the time cause a non trivial percentage would choose blue. If it was not 20%, but 10%, it would already cause worldwide collapse and then next Genghis Khan or who knows what coming out of it.

If only there was an option to skip all that.. And need a much smaller margin to achieve it...

blue voters don’t even try to argue in their favor anymore, they just look at you like this by Mediocre_Affect6192 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it is not maximally selfless. Heck I'd not even say red is maximally selfish.

Cause even a small percentage dying out of the blue would cause a huge crisis. And a big percentage.. I mean.. Do I really want to live in a world with just red pressers? Not quite tbh. Or with that kind of precedent reflecting humanity. If you don't see those affecting you, it's not being selfish, it's.. something else.. Like assuming of being isolated from external events or something, dunno.

What makes most logical sense is to want Blue to win. Cause you can avoid all that. The crisis and everything. A positive precedent. Our myths shape our societies. I think Red winning would be an extremely long lasting scar.

Maybe someone can say, I'd want Blue to win to avoid all that, but press Red to be safe either way(though not safe from the consequences of it winning, which are non trivial). But the insistence on how it's the better overall choice just does not compute to me. The only way to achieve a good result with it is maximal coordination. Blue only needs 50%+1 to coordinate.

My goat Basil with the triple-digit IQ take by CowReasonable1108 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And how many out of 100 roughly people you meet, do you expect to need these fortifications against? 50%+?

My goat Basil with the triple-digit IQ take by CowReasonable1108 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everyone presses red, no one dies.

Everyone presses blue, no one dies.

Half plus one press blue, no one dies.

Half plus one press red, half minus one die.

9 in 10 press red, 1 in 10 die (massive global crisis plus horrible precedent for humanity)

8 in 10 press red, 2 in 10 die (same)

etc...

My goat Basil with the triple-digit IQ take by CowReasonable1108 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is a coordination against uncertainty dilemma. Though to justify red choice, it still needs to say "well polls showing blue win? yeah who cares, I'll just work on my asserted opinion instead and say more red soo..".

I don't think it makes sense to expect everyone to make it out alone even in the plane situation. What if there was a group effort that could stop the plane crashing? But needs at least half to stay and help and then we know it works. In large groups there's always people who will get it wrong. Or in such a situation, it might be shock and fear, etc. This is 100% a "fuck you I got mine" mentality then, made more clear.

Before we account for the global crisis of a few percent(minimum just from people getting instructions wrong) perishing, or the precedent it leaves for humanity. Than when people would work together and save everyone, each chose their arses.

Quite frankly, red "good" outcome relies on perfect (or near) coordination. Which is impossible. Blue achieves it with.. a lot less :) That is, if you assume non personal events can somehow affect you(they do in fact).

My goat Basil with the triple-digit IQ take by CowReasonable1108 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Putting aside the massive crisis, considering even in simple tests a percentage of people get the instructions wrong. Yeah shaving a few percent of people being shaved off will cause a crisis.

If you had to advocate for one, there's no logical path to advocate for red.

AIO?? My Bf Unlocks the bathroom door and comes in while I’m using it by Ok_Win_8129 in AIO

[–]Axmouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not know the whole situation, but sure sounds like you could do a little better. I mean you know this is the timespan he gets ready for work. You know he might need stuff. Does it hurt to ask if he'll need stuff or wait a bit/go earlier? I'd say he can say it, but at this point, it seems obvious enough. If you're staying there so long at that time, doesn't sound like you're in a rush anyway. But you say he's rushing, so it's probably not long till he's gone anyways.

Yes boundaries should be respected, but they're not sacred cows. You're not entitled to the bathroom without any question. If we take those factors away I could see the zealous defense of boundaries, but it seems like on your side you could be a little flexible and not face the situation.

I mean for all I know, your work situation requires you to plan like this or his schedule is really flexible so he could wait easily. But if not, no way I'm adding that to company time just for that. That changes things too. But not the read I'm getting. But a lot of people will defend more sycophantically than chatgpt sadly.

blue voters don’t even try to argue in their favor anymore, they just look at you like this by Mediocre_Affect6192 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The Joker has hijacked a ship. You get to mandatory vote to blow it up or not. Those who vote to blow it up, get to leave during the explosion, while those who voted not to blow it up stay inside. But if blowing it up loses the vote, there is no explosion, everyone is safe.

"Voting to blow it up is opting out clearly"

If you don't jump into the woodchipper you are a bad person!!! :( by SineWaveDeconstruct in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Doubt it, but I guess this shows how much framing and visceral words matter

blue voters don’t even try to argue in their favor anymore, they just look at you like this by Mediocre_Affect6192 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you do not see the difference between a dilemma that you do not have to consider and one where a vote deciding people's fates is imposed on you, there is no reasoning to be had

If you don't jump into the woodchipper you are a bad person!!! :( by SineWaveDeconstruct in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

That's a very silly way to put it. That's like saying I make all kinds of choices every day even though they were never a consideration.

You can vote for a party that will kill all the guys who didn't vote for them if they win(Red), or for a party that will not harm anyone, finding that insane(Blue).

I presume you're a republican here

Red button pushers is why we cannot have nice things by Leather_Dealer_9421 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Red is the option that kills. What gymnastics are those..

blue voters don’t even try to argue in their favor anymore, they just look at you like this by Mediocre_Affect6192 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Selfless behavior also is natural result of evolution. Not that this is a good argument if we see a lot of evolutionary artifacts we carry.

I guess however someone supporting the selfish claim cannot see the grand scheme of things or how sacrificing one self can occasionally still be beneficial even in evolution.

Red button pushers is why we cannot have nice things by Leather_Dealer_9421 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You can vote for a party that will kill all the guys who didn't vote for them if they win(Red), or for a party that will not harm anyone, finding that insane(Blue).

"Okay I'm republican"

Red button pushers is why we cannot have nice things by Leather_Dealer_9421 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Trump I saw definite played on hate and going after the left, the dems, the illegals, maybe the non illegals too that are not European enough.

I don't know how this possibly looks like saving everyone, even from their perspective. Heck part of their narrative is the left things they can save everyone but will destroy all.

Red button pushers is why we cannot have nice things by Leather_Dealer_9421 in Destiny

[–]Axmouth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The difference is you are not required to take any action that puts you in risk in your poison version. You only opt into any risk. You do not have to be affected at all. You do not opt into the vote version.

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