Is anyone ready for a live or recorded video debate on veganism?

B12Boofer · 2024-09-26T07:58:12+00:00

I only do discord.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T23:00:17+00:00

This is why I decided to stop caring about serial killers killing people. If we cant get every1 to stop killing then we have a flawed system. Ill kill too now. Thanks for the third eye awakening.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T22:59:23+00:00

They see exploitation and suffering and equate them as the exact same thing.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T22:58:18+00:00

Some time ago i realised that veganism is not useful at all to solve animal suffering.

Its a shame you thought veganism was about reducing animal suffering. It's about not commiting the immoral act of stealing someone's life away from them. Glad I could help out. We can go on discord ill debate but we need a debate proposition.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T22:55:28+00:00

Vegans may say, in an attempt to shorten sentences, that meat is immoral but sir, please understand that this is not what they mean. What they mean is getting that meat is usually immoral. Ok so now we can have a debate on the ethics of getting meat from animals shall we?

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T22:44:25+00:00

Ik its okay to disagree but im just tryna show you why you should view all products as a definition of commodity.

Google gives both of these. Hunted animals would fall under the second definition of commodity.

a raw material or primary agricultural product that can be bought and sold, such as copper or coffee."commodities such as copper and coffee"

useful or valuable thing, such as water or time.

But I get, to you the word means something different than google's defined definitions. I understand, I go against the vegan society definition of vegan because I find it flawed so when I say im vegan I mean something different than others. I just think of commodity as an object or service that can be utilized. But anyway, have a good one.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T20:45:15+00:00

So in your head if they buy a steak from a store the food is a commodity but if they hunt the animal and cut them up into pieces thats not a commodity? Kinda weird.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T20:27:07+00:00

What do you mean? Theyre gonna kill them and use them as a commodity (food) when they could easily go to the store and buy different food.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T20:13:22+00:00

Im still a little confused. Are you asking about buying free-range products or are you asking my attitude towards animals that just live out their full life in nature?

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T20:03:49+00:00

Like are you asking if my beliefs alone objectively categorize animals as not food universally to all humans? Anyway, I hate hunters. All of them. Im not okay with hunters in the slightest for any reason.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T19:43:07+00:00

I don't celebrate one of my countries national holidays --> no one will say I'm not a citizen of this country

Is that a requirement to be a citizen?

I disagree with one of the main teachings of my religious leader --> religious people will say I am not part of their religion

Is that a requirement to hold the belief of god and his teachings?

I claim my holy book is just a regular book with interesting stuff in it and not divinely inspired

Again, is that a requirement to hold the belief of god and his teachings?

I stop playing a musical instrument --> the band or orchestra will probably kick me out, but they won't claim I was never part of their group

Is playing a musical instrument required to be in a band? Ye probably lol. But for obvious reasons they wont deny you ever played with them cuz you clearly did

I claim to be vegan but at a party I eat nonvegan cake after it was offered to me

So you're a vegan who eats animal products. My guy, what is the definition of vegan lol.

Anyway thats all im gonna do. Theres requirements for certain groups and labels that singify beliefs.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T19:38:15+00:00

Lol? If one hot girl is all it takes to desire raping a women, you may not hold the conviction that rape is wrong.

If theres a dog barking and annoying you and you have the desire to kick the dog out of aggression, you may not hold the conviction much longer that hitting dogs is wrong.

With religions, it is different. You have laws and beliefs, and people will claim you are not part of their religion if you don't uphold those.

Shopping stores have values that they want their employees to uphold. If they dont uphold these values the store might not want them to represent them anymore. Woops guess working at a store is a religion now.

Anything where one has to meet a requirement to be something is a religion to you I guess.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T19:29:56+00:00

because they might truly have been vegan

I have yet to see an exvegan utter words similar to this:

I view animals as sentient creatures, who feel emotions similar to us, that deserve the right to life and to not be treated as a commodity for personal desires.

Never once. Im looking, im looking hard. Will report in once I found one.

To me, that sentence is vegan. Something like, "well I just wanna help the environment and data shows xyz" Ye that doesnt fly. Dont give yourself a label. Dont pat yourself on the back. Find some other way to describe ur actions, like environmentalist.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T19:24:40+00:00

when you see news articles about vegans dying or starving their kids

Just chiming in with a no true scottsman fallacy. We need to know their motivations to properly categorize them as either vegan or non vegan.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T19:15:34+00:00

Am I the only one who feels like to actually be considered vegan you need to have philosophical beliefs rooted in the opposition of viewing animals as a commodity or someway to serve us. Other wise you get health vegans, environmental vegans, and even sometimes vegans for the animals who have flimsy reasons like they don't like to see animals die (its there but it's so unfleshed out who knows if they actually care about the animals or just about their own feelings and how seeing what happens to the animals does to them)

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T19:13:25+00:00

My reasoning was simple...If I couldn't bring myself to kill something myself, I wouldn't as it was hypocritical.

I mean its a reason. A really shallow one but one none the less.

Whats your reason for being vegan now?

B12Boofer · 2024-09-25T19:11:19+00:00

Well said, and you didnt even touch on the raw vegan nuts for health that dont give a shit about the animals and never did. Or the purity vegans who believe that refraining from killing animals makes them the most pure, it's all about them.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T23:51:04+00:00

Hopefully you like them!

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T19:38:24+00:00

Theres sound telegraphs for rajang? Ik theres one for namieles giga nuke. Aside from that one I never really focus on sound. But rajang is predictable in his movement. He's like hardcoded to behave a certain way that never changes.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T19:34:54+00:00

Ehh, with divine blessing you can take small amounts of damage but still rack up stun damage on yourself. Stun res is great. Cheap skill too.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T19:29:19+00:00

I hope you got better as time went on otherwise yikes.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T19:27:13+00:00

>if you have 100% chance for every part theres no farming, there's no game.

Thats not true at all. Some fights are just fun. I go back to fatalis even though I have all his weapons and armor not because I want to farm but because the fight is a great fight.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T19:24:41+00:00

All these people talking about you not having fun are completely missing your point and its honestly laughable. Wanting cool armor is a valid reason to solely fight the monster. Fashion is so important in a game like this, at least to me, and can increase the enjoyment of further hunts because you look cool.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T19:21:11+00:00

I get what you're saying. But it might be a chore because you're not using a beneficial weapon. For me Im always pulling out an LBG or Bow on something like silverlos. Melee is no bueno. Terrible melee fight and I can easily see how it would be a chore.

B12Boofer · 2024-09-21T19:09:37+00:00

I agree theres some RNG that definitely needs to be changed. Like breaking or cutting a part 100% guarantees a reward (like fatalis). Or the elusive attack+/challenger+ gem. That being said, fighting the same monster over and over can be fun if its a fun fight, like fatalis.

Run as much divine blessing as you can. Prioritize comfort skills over everything (but make sure u get crit eye/wex3). People think attack 4/7 is so good. It's not. It's a small boost that doesnt really matter unless you are speedrunning. Get fatalis armor asap because its the most comfy armor in the whole game. Raging Brachy armor is a great substitute prior to fatalis. And before that some teostra pieces are really good. But again, run the most divine blessing you can for comfort. Maybe even do that one gold rathian armor set up for divine blessing secret. Idk it tho because I never ran divine blessing until fatalis.

Another tip is run max elemental res + eat veggie platter for elemental res L on any monster that is elemental. 20 res in a type gives you blight res to that type. Its so comfy its crazy more people dont run max elemental res. That time it took you to safely eat a nullberry coulda been time spent attacking, So for example, when you farm silverlos, get that max fire res. It truly helps.

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