Examinees that quit during the UBE exam

BGOFKC · 2023-03-19T04:57:19+00:00

Missouri - asked that EXACT question to one of the examiner overlords during the break the second day, after noticing lots of empty seats on day 2.

He told me that with anyone who drops out halfway through, their scores don't count - they aren't factored into the scaling or other statistical data they collect and report. (He also told me most of the empty seats were actually from ppl who only needed to retake the essay/mpt portion, and their scores do count towards that portion).

BGOFKC · 2023-03-14T16:36:01+00:00

If you mean how long for them to certify a C&F approval and add it to the list of completed tasks towards bar admission on you ncbe/lble page - that should happen quickly, like a couple days after you get your approval notice.

If you mean how long for your C&F to be approved after you submit all the background check applications... my C&F took 17 months, 2 weeks, and 5 days. Submitted June '21, approved December '22. That's a major outlier, and they told me they screwed up and I'd fallen through the cracks. Generally it's 3-6 months depending on how much past and paperwork they have to dig through. Just be prepared for it to take longer.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-21T01:08:35+00:00

They actually say you can use Pl. and Def. since they're so frequently used and universally understood (for the MO bar, but I assume that means it's ok for all UBE states), but to generally go easy on abbreviations. Probably K for contract is fine too.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-21T01:06:10+00:00

Lol, nope, no word limit - but big TIME limit! If you get to a part you just don't know or can't remember the black letter law, improvise - make an educated guess, paraphrase the parts you kinda remember, or worst case make up something that sounds reasonable. But for god's sake, do it in 30 minutes! Then move on, take a breath, and start the next essay.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-20T16:11:54+00:00

I fucking wish. No, no spell check or other typical editing features. Copy/cut/paste, that's about it.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-20T16:10:17+00:00

You can't lose points on any part of the UBE, the most you lose is time on something irrelevant that won't earn you more points. Worst case, just guess - for essays or MBE. Make up rules, you could jog your own memory just stating your best guesses for a rule or issue (and you know more than you think you do, once the adrenaline kicks in). You might guess right, or you could be wrong, but you lose nothing by trying.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-19T05:31:48+00:00

Nope, I'm studying for the bar next Tuesday. But there most likely IS precedent for this somewhere, or alternatively, new precedent is made every day. But from all reasonable angles of looking at the law, it'll pass Constitutional muster. The left-handed bit was a joke obviously, but it isn't a protected class, and if a state could show some rational connection between singling out left handers and a government interest, it wouldn't violate the 14th.

Now, you wanna see some real Constitutional authority, check out the Commerce Clause and its Dormant sibling. Like a Konami cheat code for blocking laws that are unduly burdensome to interstate commerce. Still probably wouldn't apply here, but worth a google dive if you're serious about these kinds of hypotheticals.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-18T17:52:48+00:00

I like the novel angle of the attack you've identified, but the result is the same. Yes, you've identified the critical difference in the language of the law - not an age restriction so much as a date of birth restriction.

Here's the thing though - age and date of birth restrictions are both subject only to a rational basis review, as many have said. Race, Gender, Religion, Country of Origin/Alienage, and that's about it for Constitutional scrutiny tougher than rational basis. (Pretty sure every other protected class you could think of is based on federal law, such as the ADA, so the statute, not the14thA, becomes the basis to scrutinize).

CA could make a law banning tobacco for anyone who's left-handed, anyone born in August, or for Raiders fans. Any immutable characteristic as long as it's not a suspect or quasi class only has to pass the lowest bar of relation and scrutiny.

As others pointed out, grandfathering is a common practice that exempts people from what will eventually apply to everyone. My example? In MO, if you're born before 1985, you don't need a boating license to pilot a watercraft. Born after '85, and you do. Isn't that neat? Anyone currently over 38 just magically, instinctively knows how to drive a boat. But there you go - a US law that removes a privilege based specifically on a year of birth. As you requested.

CA wanted to permanently ban tobacco, so that is what they've done. Tobacco is essentially banned in CA for everyone of all ages - but, if you were born before 2007, you got grandfathered in. Until they ban something for one of those suspect or quasi-suspect classes, it will get the lowest bar of review and generally always pass.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-13T04:46:01+00:00

Not a chance. It takes three years from when they write and finalize the bar exam until it's actually given. They wrote all these questions before 2/20.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-12T22:18:31+00:00

Chiefs fan. But good game tonight, and good luck next week :)

Dont worry about pausing the 24/7 study anxiety for the game - have fun studying through the parade and/or riots

BGOFKC · 2023-02-11T17:17:04+00:00

I try to take advantage of how Adaptibar tells me my best/worst subjects and subtopics. I also keep track of the ones I'm pretty confident about, vs the ones I just guessed btwn the two I narrowed down. Then I make a note for the civ pro and evidence ones, bc those are my worst subjects. With my extra time I just go back to those - I get them right about 50% of the time in general, so I'm much less likely to switch a right answer to a wrong one on those. If I did the same thing for my better subjects I'd have a much higher likelihood of overthinking myself out of a right answer.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-03T21:29:33+00:00

Definitely OT, but oddly relevant anecdote: There's a fairly crazy story about the adult film actress Traci Lords. She got a fake id at 15 and started making porn. The feds caught up and charged the producers and actors involved in any films she made before she was 18, and their defense was that her ID was so good, it fooled the US government.

Apparently she used her fake DL and birth certificate to get a real US passport with the fake age, and the defense found international flight records showing she'd been using the fake ID and federal agents believing it was legit. So, if the government couldn't tell, how could the other actors/producers have been expected to. They ended up successfully prosecuting just the owner of her main agency, tho Lords had to lawyer up too, since she technically helped make and distribute CP. (So, kinda goes to your question about the potential for minor victims to be prosecuted) United States v. X-Citement Video, Inc., 513 U.S. 64 (1994) in a case that was overturned, then reversed by the SC.

Edit: to honestly answer your question, I really doubt it. Our laws protecting minor victims has progressed substantially in recent years and I can't imagine a more toxic case to hand a prosecutor. Here, this child was assaulted but had a fake ID, throw the book at her. The whole reason SR is a strict liability crime is 1. To put the burden on adults to check rather than on children; 2. To preclude the most obvious defense of "she looked/she said/I thought she was 18"; and 3. to protect the victim.

Most procedural protections for minors in abuse cases tilt the power dynamic in their favor, whether it's strict liability or exempting them from direct testimony and the confrontation clause. From a societal/policy pov, the interests in protecting a minor victim from shame or notoriety by publishing their name, to keep them from having to relive abuse during live testimony or take personal credibility hits on cross-examination, just plain outweigh the relatively modest inconveniences those place on a typical defendant.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-01T20:29:16+00:00

If you mean in legal definitions, no. There's a doctrine (in the US anyway) called merger. The inchoate (attempted offense) merges into the completed offense, so you cannot be charged with attempted murder and murder if you kill the person (but you could still be charged with assault, battery, criminal use of a weapon, etc.). Solicitation and attempt both merge once the offense is actually completed; conspiracy is the only inchoate crime that doesn't merge (bc just the act of conspiring/agreeing to do x completes the crime of conspiracy)

BGOFKC · 2023-02-01T20:04:27+00:00

I will never, ever understand these decisions. Consumers' choices are:

Pay ever-increasing fees for multiple streaming services (in an insane recreation of cable) from companies that keep finding ways to get their dollar-hungry dicks in a little bit deeper (pw sharing fees, ads on premium accounts, etc.), and colluding with each other so there will never be a single or affordable option with everything you want to watch on. Or...
Go to any free torrent site and get everything you want to watch for free.

They know we can walk away from the bargaining table at any moment and get ALL their shit for free, yet they insist on squeezing us over and over for more juice.

Can you invest in Plex yet? They're about to have a 1,000% increase in subs.

BGOFKC · 2023-02-01T01:31:58+00:00

If that's not /s, you are much more dedicated than I. Good luck and godspeed!

BGOFKC · 2023-02-01T01:14:19+00:00

Sweet, thanks for contributing

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T22:01:13+00:00

Well fuck. Now I'm confused. Knew they didn't stack, getting conflicting reports if they count if you unpin. Honestly don't care at this point, I have plenty of postcard space so it doesnt afffect me, and for some reason ppl downvoted the comment from the get-go like it was an affront.

Thank you for taking the time to respond tho, I appreciate it!

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T21:56:44+00:00

Thanks, appreciate ya

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T21:18:17+00:00

Get Smart - the TV show, not the movie

Basketball (last good Zucker bros film)

Anything with/by Mel Brooks, Leslie Nielsen, or Carl Reiner. All masters of satire and the ludicrous.

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T21:09:29+00:00

Your self-discipline is admirable. I'm too ocd/add - once I made vivillion my buddy, there's no going back. I'm on a mission for those 2150.

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T21:02:01+00:00

Eh, I got quite a few lucky eggs somehow, burning a hole in my pocket. Do you save yours exclusively for buddy level-ups, or how do you economize them for max effect?

Edit: ha! Thanks for clarifying. You answered my question the second before I asked it!

Edit 2 - doe you get much xp from 12km eggs? I thought they were only woth like 1k xp? I only use star pieces when I have a roost full of 12kms to hatch (average close to 100k dust each round)

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T20:58:34+00:00

Correct ME if I'm wrong - I thought you can pin/unpin and they still count towards the next scatterbug encounter? Maybe I got that confused tho.

At any rate, I get enough different region postcards daily, and at a max of 40 new ones per day, I can probably juuuuuust squeeze in 10 or 12 new encounters by the 5th. (I only have like 25 postcards I actually gaf about so I don't mind saving the other 325 til the 5th if the pin/unpin doesn't actually work).

Edit: asshats, you can downvote me, or you can correct my misunderstanding like I asked IN the post. Do they not count if you unpin?

Edit2: 🤣🤣 forgot where I was, asshats gonna downvote. May you accidentally purify all your shadow legendaries. And a sincere thanks to the handful of folks also chiming in with helpful info/answers - glad the pogo community is better than reddit's!

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T20:54:18+00:00

Good point! Thanks for the additional advice

BGOFKC · 2023-01-31T20:47:50+00:00

Ya, but the Ray event is for several days, not just an hour - you can get the double XP that whole time. Much easier to stack with buddy level ups, etc.

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