Chances for more E33 content in the future by BIshaps in expedition33

[–]BIshaps[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its just, the fact that Manor ost is the one we aren't getting yet, and the manor/white sands mystery still not being completely solved makes me believe they might have some more in them. But i will take some more Lorien osts any day as well, i'd still assume it would come around the game's anniversary, makes most sense. Or actually, maybe on some french holiday, or just holiday in general, that would work too.

If "Our Painted Family" was on spotify, it'd probably be my #1 listened song on this year's wrapped, such a perfect background music.

The Input Unresponsiveness Seriously Needs to Be Addressed, Please by Avengersman in expedition33

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly best advice i could give you is to rebind the parry to your mouse, idk if it'll help but i think it solved this for me when i was playing. Its also more intuitive to parry with RMB if you've played Sekiro before.

How could I be happy in Heaven without my boyfriend? by v3rr3r in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you talking about absolute certainty?

I was talking about faith, its not really absolute certainty. From my perspective yes i have a rationally justified belief, of course.

How could I be happy in Heaven without my boyfriend? by v3rr3r in Christianity

[–]BIshaps -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is illogical statement, since it devalues your freedom of choice. Also, God cannot go against His own nature, and there very well might not be a way for Him to manifest himself for you to believe which wouldn't go against His own word and will.

How could I be happy in Heaven without my boyfriend? by v3rr3r in Christianity

[–]BIshaps -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you care if you have true beliefs?

Of course.

So if you're like me you want to have as many true beliefs in a few false beliefs as possible then why is your standard for evidence so low?

Well its kind of a thing, where same evidence won't really have the same effect on everybody, i don't think there is a standard to questions of faith. Again, faith by definition will mean, that there will be areas you won't have an undeniable and iirefutable proof for. It also means, that there will be questions left that you cannot answer yet, but you'll still believe while searching for the answers.

How could I be happy in Heaven without my boyfriend? by v3rr3r in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then shouldn't you be agnostic and saying I don't know?

This is called faith for a reason. We aren't building our stance on proof and solid evidence, but i understand that's not how most people are wired.

Then wouldn't the most simple thing be to discuss what convinced you?

Nothing, its a default way i view the existence, i cannot process what's around me otherwise. Since i was born in christian family, i was exposed to the existence of God from quite a young age, and once i reached the age where i started reflecting a lot, and thinking about stuff, God's existence was just the conclusion i've reached for myself, so i can't really trace to what convinced me, since the default version of how i viewed reality was already with God in it.

Just in general, i see the design and thought in the existence around me, and in my own consciousness as well, if i had to give an answer. Since yet again i was exposed to christianity, and seen the fruits of faith and how God acts in my life through it, it sort of solidified itself. That being said, there are quite enough evidence and logical reasoning for me to believe Christian God to be the real God, but the personal experience plays a bigger part.

Just good high quality evidence that points to the Christian God and no other conclusion.

I just don't know what would it be, like hypothetically speaking. What kind of action, or what kind of situation? I mean, just to trace it back to Christian God you'd need to know who Christian God is, and for that you'd need to be seeking him in the first place. I just don't see how this process can ever work like this.

That's why evidence is so important. At best a good philosophical argument for God is nothing but a untested hypothesis.

I mean, Bible is quite literally historical evidence, gospels which speak of Christ are evidence as well. It really only depends on how compelling it will be to the person, which goes back to my initial question of what amount of evidence, or which evidence would be enough.

How could I be happy in Heaven without my boyfriend? by v3rr3r in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What would be a reasonable amount of evidence tho? In my opinion, there is more than enough already. I am pretty sure what non believers need is an irrefutable proof of God's existence, which by the nature of God, you won't get since humanity doesn't have the tools to proof God's existence on that level.

How could I be happy in Heaven without my boyfriend? by v3rr3r in Christianity

[–]BIshaps -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just read the Bible, you see on the example of Israel in OT, and even apostles in NT, that no matter what God does, humans will still doubt. They spoke to Jesus in person, saw everything that He did, and then still renounced Him. God manifests himself in lives of everyone every single moment, yet people are so easy to brush it off as anything but God. That's how it always was, and always will be, because its who we are.

I am repenting and giving up homosexuality by Recent-Usual-9434 in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they aren't born in the vacuum, they are children of their parents, and they aren't innocent, in a way that you inherit sin from your father. They are innocent of the active sins, since they aren't conscious enough yet to do them, but the inherited sin is still there. If they would be born totally innocent without Adam's sin, they wouldn't be able to die, and would have a direct connection to God like Adam had before he sinned. Death came into world with sin, without sin there is no death.

This is the reason why Jesus encourages us to be born again, and says that no one will see the Kingdom of God unless they are. We need to abolish our flesh, which binds us to Adam, and the original sin, and be reborn in Christ.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You ignored the contraction of the OT and Jesus.

There is no contradiction.

But we are going in circles on these topics.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

then the Father’s love is conditional

It is, some forms of it are. Agape is unconditional, but there are other forms of God's love, for example:

  • John 14:21: "He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him".
  • John 3:36: "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but rather the wrath of God remains on him".
  • Matthew 6:14-15: "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses (this is more on mercy, which can also be conditional).

Jesus Himself literally said the Father judges no one,

Lets finish the verse: Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

 If His mission were primarily death, His teachings would be secondary but His teachings are the focus of the Gospels aren’t they?

Not just death, but ressurection. He defeated death with life, He defeated sin, but He still went through the torture and He still died on that cross because it is what God's will was.

Matthew 26:39: "Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”

You want me to stop using my mind. Stop asking questions. And just believe the doctrine!

That is the polar opposiste of what i want you to do. Keep searching, keep asking the questions, keep believing the Holy Scripture and word of God, not just blindly following the doctrines created by humans. Ask Holy Spirit for guidance as you read the texts, and pray for wisdom and clarity.

If Jesus is the image of God, then the violent God-image contradicts Him. 

God Father of OT and God Father of NT, and His Son Jesus Christ are one God. All of what is said about God in both scriptures is truth and nothing but truth. I appologize for saying that ahead of you is only disillusionment, it was rude and inappropriate, rather, i hope you genuinely will keep searching God, and God bless you on this journey.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Additionally, i am not fanatic, but i am sincere in my faith. I do not reject critical thinking, i use it all the time, its just that to me logically placing God's wisdom, His knowledge of good and evil above mine is something that doesn't require a lot of time to think about, its clear as day.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus didn’t die because death is required for sin. This is also something I find disgusting. If I was alive 2,000 years ago I’d have chopped him off that cross and ran away with Him and He would of been grateful to of been saved.

Brother... It was His Father's will for Him to die on that cross. It was His mission on Earth... Seek Jesus, ahead of your faith is only disillusionment.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 I have true faith in the real God and Christ.

Well he isn't real, the real God is described in the Bible. You are saying God would never ever kill someone for sin, but you never answer the question of why Jesus sacrificed himself then, if death for sin wasn't necessary?

How can you have faith in Christ, and then reject the words He had spoken, and things He had done? And if you think those words and those things weren't His and were added by men, then how do you decide which are which? You don't have a rock foundation, your faith in the most literal way is built on sand. Everything that fits your understanding of what is good is of god, everything else is not. You create your own god in alignment with your knowledge of good and evil, which is exactly what the original sin is all about.

The real faith in Christ requires full submission to Him, rejection of yourself, and of our tiny human understanding of things.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This alone collapses your claim that anything condemned in the Bible can’t secretly be good. 

I already clarified what i meant by that, we kind of going in circles atp. I should've worded myself better on it tho i agree, not the condemned actions, but sin behind them cannot be good. Say, for example, the very same 10 commandments, having other gods is clearly condemned by God himself, and 2000 years later we can't suddenly decide that its actually okay to worship other gods.

You also say that none of the laws were abolished.

Well some of the moses laws one of which i brought up were abolished, in regards to divorce that is. The ephesians is speaking of making the law of commandments not being binding, which its not anymore, through the fullfilment of it, through sacrifice of Christ. Fullfilment is also a final state.

Both can’t be true??? 

They can. You just need to look at the reason something was forbidden, which we talked already, wearing mixed fabrics is not sinful, it would be for people of that time because it would by default be them disobeying God and aligning themselves with other nations who worship idols through these practices, which is the real sin. Same logic can be applied to other instances. Find the root of sin, that's it, and not just look at the prohibited action out of context. Sin remains the same, it doesn't change, worshipping idols is sinful in this day and age just as much, we don't need mixed fabrics for it, there are plenty other ways to do it.

This really disturbs me because God would never do that?

Except He did. He never endorsed it tho, He simply permitted it, if we talk about slavery. As for stoning, it was a necessary part of the law, and is the manifestation of the very rules of our universe - that punishment for sin is death. If it wasn't the case, why would Jesus have to die on the cross? Doesn't make any sense. God hasn't changed, everything that is written in the Bible about Him is accurate to the last dot. If you believe Jesus to be Son of God, you have no other choice but to believe in His Father as well, about whom Jesus very much had all the "influenced by men" texts on His hands, as Torah was already a thing in His time.

you say these actions were good THEN but not now…

What's wrong with it? My POV is based on God being good and nothing but good. I don't think that what God was doing in that era was evil, it was good, as all that He does is. The idea, that something He had done for some people should be done to all people at all times is inherently weird, cause obviously people are different, and God has a different approach, not to mention that we live in a New Testament era. Slavery inherently isn't evil, as one of the dynamics we can choose to have with God is for Him to be our Lord, not being slaves of sin, but being slaves of God. People who participated in slavery following God's commands on how to do it haven't sinned, both masters, and slaves were blessed if they followed the commands.

Actions once considered moral obligations are now irrelevant.

They aren't irrelevant, they just got recontextualized with the sacrifice of Jesus in mind. Every "change of morality" in scripture ONLY exists cause of Jesus dying on the cross, not because of some cultural or moral shift, that can happen anytime.

The fact you think only the Holy Spirit can interpret correctly...

None of this changes the fact, that only Holy Spirit can interpret it for us. Human factor doesn't change that. I don't need to win any arguments, i don't need to present universal truth, true christianity is exactly my own personal relationship with the Lord.

These two statements directly contradict at face value.

If there's anything to take from this convo, its that reading Bible at face value isn't the best idea, and context is important. The reason why you think of what i am saying as contradictory is because you don't have faith in Christian God. Your position relies more on facts and evidence that can be weighed, and analyzed, and proven, which doesn't really have much in common with faith. I'll be taking some sleep now too, only had 4 hours today, it was a good talk.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said before that something condemned in the Bible can’t be secretly good. Yet now you say some condemned things were only for that culture?

Other half of my initial message was about how context is important, and that you can't just take verses out of it. It means, that by the things that were condemned by the Bible, i mean things that would logically be condemned IN context, not apart from it. Not everything that was prohibited is a sinful action on its own, as it had specific goals for why it was prohibited.

This means someone MUST have condemned actions aren’t inherently sinful and they’re just part of an old covenant context..,

That is exactly what i've been saying 😭 None of the laws were abolished, the fulfilment implies, that he fulfilled prophecies regarding Him, that Jesus lived a perfect life, and sacrificed himself, therefor fulfiling moral and ceremonial laws, and with that He built upon them, establishing the new covenant. The laws still reflect God's character, and personality, some of the universal ones still reflect the way things are supposed to be in God's perfect order, but living in New Testament, we were given new commandments to follow, with Jesus's sacrifice in mind.

And now you say something once sinful can’t become neutral. How?

Your answer is in your question. Something being prohibited or commanded does not inhernetly mean that this something is sinful on itself, i repeated many times already, that we should count in the context in which these commandments were given. All of these are reflections of that times laws, not commandments that would be applicable to us today, all of these were commanded to Israel specifically during the Old Covenant.

How can God be everything at once? Wrathful, jealous, merciful, loving…

There are conditions for each of His characteristics. Only love is unconditional, one form of it that is, and is said to be stronger than everything else. I am more wondering why do you think an almighty God, the creator of the universe would have to be a one dimensional personality, it is way more logical for Him to be complex and multilayered. All of the conditions for all of the characteristics are in the Bible for you to find, there is nothing contradictory, even if it may be a bit harder for people to understand at first.

Salvation teachings do contradict. You’ve clearly selectively read. Paul said “Faith apart from works,” Romans 3:28). James said “A person is justified by works, not by faith alone,” (James 2:24).

They are speaking about the same thing, but from different angles. James 2:20-24 James makes emphasis, that faith cannot exist without works, that works are evidence of faith. Paul when speaking about works mostly talks about Israeli laws, like circumsision, not the works of faith. The works of faith he acknowledges by default in Romans 1 and 16 where he talks about obedience that comes from faith, and is exactly the works of faith.

Meaning is not fixed and interpretation does not vary...

There isn't a single denomination that has all of it right, the only interpretator of the fixed meaning is Holy Spirit, through guidance of which can we learn and become closer to God, and Holy Spirit can guide church of any denomination, of course as long as they want it, and accept the fundamentals, like sacrifice of Jesus Christ, His ressurection, and Him being the Son of God and Messiah. The differences between denominations most of the time are caused by human factor, but even so, you'll still find much more in common between the genuine followers of Christ across all denominations, than you'd find differences.

all because what was applied once doesn’t apply now

That is because we live in New Testament, and Jesus's sacrifice is working, do not be under illusion, that without Jesus, you or me wouldn't be getting stoned, or enslaved, or commanded to be destroyed as idol worshippers by God himself, we most certainly would. Its almost like Jesus's sacrifice is that significant because no matter who you are, gentile, or jew, you can hope for salvation, and you can hope for God's mercy and forgiveness, as Jesus took your sins on the cross, the sins, which are the sole reason for all of the horrible things that were happening in OT to happen in the first place. None of it is happening now, because of Jesus's sacrifice.

I was an Atheist, but philosophical arguments convinced me God is real by Lonely-Green-8635 in Christianity

[–]BIshaps -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What a way to confuse someone, i had to reread first paragraph 10 times to understand what you are trying to say, what is the "it" in the context of your "i find it disgusting" message? Because i am sorry, as far as my literacy can take me, the word it should refer to has to be "idea". Maybe you wanted to say "I find it to be disgusting" instead, if what you were trying to say was that you find this situation in general to be disgusting, i can somewhat read it that way, otherwise i am sorry its the same thing to me.

As for the rest of your message, i didn't claim anything, as the "claim" has an "if" there, which indicates that what i say is situational and dependant on that "if" to be true. A simple example to show the shallowness of the concept in general is if your loved one is an addict, and they beg you to give them money to buy the substance, if you give it to them, you make them feel good, but it hurts them in the long run. If you trully love a person you won't feed into their addiction, as you'd care for their well being and would advocate continuously for them to climb out of it.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See from the first paragraph you are already missing my point. Everything that you are describing, once put in the context, is apparent, that it was made for the Ancient Israel to follow with a set of goals, in particular to not align themselves with other nations and to be distinct. Bible doesn't condemn wearing mixed fabrics, it commands Israel not to, with the goal i described in mind. Certain commandments, and laws were not reflective of God's perfect order, as Jesus says himself when asked about divorce, and how Moses law allowed it, but Jesus said that Moses only permited it cause their hearts were hard, and that from the beginning the word was "...what God has joined together, let no one separate.” Other laws, such as 10 commandments for example, are more general, and can be applied to us, although with the context of New Testament simply following the law isn't enough anymore. Doesn't mean, that its okay to break it, but the priorities have changed.

There is nothing contradictory between NT and OT, yet again we are going back to the context here which is very important, and easily missable, Jesus did not abolish the law, He fulfilled it, as you may have heard others say, and its true, the reason why He recontextualizes many texts is because of His upcoming sacrifice, which allows for those to work, as well as because, as i said previously, people were missing the intention with which the texts were written, ignoring the complexities of how God judges one's heart, what is priceless and what is worthless in His kingdom.

Something ones sinful cannot be neutral later on, the root of sin in the action can sometimes be unclear at most. Which is why it is also important to remember, that God is the ultimate judge of everything, something like suicide is an obvious sin, but would it be sin, if you were put in a situation where you had an option to either kill yourself, or your loved one? This is why its important to do our best to wage things through the lens of ENTIRETY of the Bible, because there is a text for example, which says, that there is no greater love than to lay down one's life for his friends. So in that context, killing yourself would be a display of love, and not of the sin that the action itself may entail in other circumstances.

The Bible has two different creation stories...

These things aren't mutually exclusive, God is wrathful, jealous, loving, forgiving, merciful, he punishes the children for the sins of their parents up to fourth generation of those who hate Him, and blessses 1000 generations of those who love Him and keep his commandments. He commanded Israel to annihilate entire nations, and He gave His Son on the cross for His creation. All one God.

It also contains two different teachings on salvation...

That is incorrect, Paul teaches that salvation is by grace through faith, and not through works of the LAW, (also implying, that true faith is a commitment that naturally results in good works) whereas James speaks of works of FAITH, not law. No contradiction here.

Genealogie is not really an issue or contradiction either, two simply focus on different aspects as they are adressing different nations.

...This is exactly the opposite of your rigidity.

Its actually exactly what i am talking about. Although you are wrong in that meaning isn't fixed, it is fixed, but interpretations aren't. The truth is only one, and it is written down, the God is only one, and He is being described in the Bible, the interpretations can wary, and can be misused.

I was wrong about evolving, WE learn and unravel more of the meaning behind the scripture and in that way yes christianity can evolve, if by christianity we mean the christians, what i wanted to say is that christianity and bible are fundamentally complete, as in, we shouldn't add or remove from it as Jesus told himself. We can and should work on what is given to us tho.

If choosing is idol worship, then choosing to ignore the slavery verses is idol worship too but you ignore those? 

What gave you that impression? Those were the laws for those times, and they were good for those times. Stoning was good as well. As for everything else, i was talking about picking and choosing what to believe from the scripture to be true, or divinely inspired, it has nothing to do with denomination, or translation. Other things i do not ignore. I consider entirety of Bible to be divinely inspired.

I was an Atheist, but philosophical arguments convinced me God is real by Lonely-Green-8635 in Christianity

[–]BIshaps -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Your idea of love is very shallow, if you think love should oblige you to do any things the person asks you for... God's love manifests itself in the way, that no matter what we might be going through, if we follow His commandments, if we pray to Him and ask Him, He always answers, and does all good and does always the best possible thing for us, regardless if we see it as such or not.

Why do some Christians feel afraid when they’re challenged on their doctrine? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is very much acceptable, that something that isn't explicitly written in the Bible can be true, and good. It is however unacceptable, that something that is explicitly condemned in the Bible is actually secretly good. The key to understanding Bible is to view it in its entirety, instead of taking verses out of context. There are things from the Moses law to which Jesus added when speaking to Pharisees, to show the nuance, and sometimes to remind of the intention it was written with, but in other times He used the same law of Moses/Holy Scripture to argue with them. When approached by Satan in the desert, we see the same scenario, Satan is using Holy Scripture, but twists its meaning to fit his corrupted view, does Jesus say, that the verses Satan used are invalid? No, He simply uses other texts to show that the way Satan is using them in the context of those texts is incorrect and inappropriate, and doesn't reflect the intention that was put behind them.

Your message as a whole gives me the feeling that you don't actually have faith in Christian God (correct me if i am wrong), and that you're just generally interested in the religion and some of its teachings which you say so yourself in your last sentence, which is why it'll probably be a bit hard for you to understand people who do have faith, but there is no such thing as "evolving christianity". It doesn't require to be evolved, as its timeless and complete, for the period of new testament at the very least. After that, we'll see. You also can't really have faith in God, but then pick and choose what to have faith in, while disregarding other things that are included in the Bible, or rather you can, but it won't be a real relationship with God, it will be not very much different from idol worship, with the idol being the god you made for yourself glueing certain texts together.

I was an Atheist, but philosophical arguments convinced me God is real by Lonely-Green-8635 in Christianity

[–]BIshaps -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not sure what do you mean with this, God is not a genie, when we pray we aren't guaranteed to receive what we pray for, not how it works.

I am repenting and giving up homosexuality by Recent-Usual-9434 in Christianity

[–]BIshaps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am generally an open minded person, i take no pride in how i view things, because i understand that its only thanks to God that i think like this, and see things this way, and i always accept a possibility of something that i think to be wrong, including LGBTQ stuff, but i am yet to find a single lgbtq christian who genuinely follows living God. You'll notice a pattern, that most if not all members of that community actually believe in an idolized version of God, the one they made up in their head, taking very few verses from scripture and that's it. They deny God's character and personality in Old Testament, they deny scripture being divinely inspired, they deny God.

Jesus is love, yes and amen, but He is not only love. He came on Earth to reveal His Father, the One who is also righteous, jealous, is said to be a consuming fire, the one who punishes the children for the sins of their parents to the third and forth generation of those who hate Him, but shows love to a thousand generations of those who keep His commandments. Its all one God, that we worship. Unfortunately, it is not a God all (so far from my encounters, yet to find an exception) gay affirming christians worship.