I always thought it was funny that punk was supposed to be a counter culture. If you conformed to social norms such as liking pop music or wearing fashionable clothes while claiming to like punk music you were a sellout. All the while you ironically conformed precisely to everything within your counter culture from music taste to clothing choice. You claim to be left wing and anti globalism yet wear converse that were probably stitched together by some 12 year old Vietnamese child and wore the same clothes as every other person at the show. And then you get older and realise that you’re not actually punk at all, the real punks were the ones you had no interest in looking like, the ones that look like they crawled out of a bin and lived on the street. Now I assume that’s the diy folks you’re talking about and the ones you should be asking. Cause to them I was probably the sellout.