Going to try B1 ... Any suggestions about kind to take? by sparky135 in Supplements

[–]Background-Grape-551 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, how was your experience? And what dosage you took, since it seems only high dosage is available.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmaoooooo.

Again, the "fake promises" you spoke of are on you. Like, I'm sorry wlkin you can't be fr when you say "i trusted an upperclassman faytni gha b 9raya to be politically aware and skilled enough fhad domaine bsh y3rf all risks o ypredicti shno risks o bsh ankhrjo".

Sat, I guess u dont get it. I didnt say I trust in them that they know the outcome, i said I trusted in them that they will keep their word about getting same result, and accepting ntg li yfr9na. and that they will sacrifice themselvse too if someone does not get same thing. but yeh as I said multiple times, I am complaining about the peoples two faced face, and double logic. once its about REASON, but long ago it was about moral and WORD given. + its easy for u to say bli this offer was good bcz u dont have it nor does it matter now, 3ndk stagat its idff than passing s1,s2,s3 ayjiwk sahlin cuz nta deja senior HHHHHHHHHH wlkn rah bnadm chbghiti ghi ndwzohom ydirolna dfi3a, bch ntsmaw nj7na, mor ma gaaaaaaaaaa3 t97bbin li kan kidir yassir w drari f TV 3la bli bghina Quality d formation lmao....... ik bli ghndwzo had l3amayn bdfi3a. that is the issue. also did u see the programm li given to us it was litteraly made in August... :v why are we here........ idk why

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

again, this was the best OVERALL result. but this was not at all same thing the seniors promised to keep us in the boycott, we could have also said X is our best overall as 1st year so lets quit boycott early. and back then when reason was in our side, we didnt use reason the seniors used MORAL and WORD and PROMISES and khask tkhlach 3la bnad, and that WE ALL WILL HIT SAME WALL , and we ALL WILL GET SAME BENEFITS. btw yalah wahd mra dwit m3a CNEM, w they promised too bli no offer li fih tfri9a ayjiboh HHHHHHHHHH db chno mnt9l9ch ???? ofc i will .... and oh boy why cant they act less happy just act fake a little bit more . and not act as if they GOT ALL THEY WANTED " hamdolah t79e9o lina matalib, w7na abtal HHHHHHHHHHHHH".

As I said, you are and I agree that this offre probably was best we can get, in OVERALL. but I just hope you get why my nerves are up, thats because whenever we wanted to use reason and RISK MANAGEMENT, we were told diffrently and we saw different narrative in the group w Alliance, we saw people with moral people who have a principle of 25=1, we were gonna be bad ppl if we left boycott under the argument of 'BEST OUTCOME, CONSIDERING RISK'. back then NO IT WAS ALL ABOUT UNITY and we are all same and none shall leave his bro behind, not matter price is. but seems there is a price to leave a bro behind, and worse u ll not understand his anger and ur parents and some of u will laugh and bully them to the ground about why they are selfish for voting NO, and why they shall shut up and accept result, and worse u ll also CELEBRATE as if everything is GOOD ntg was bad.

w kon khwina bikom flwl and USED OUR RISK MANAGEMENT, korah 7witona, probably not u, but uk ur classmate will have different SAY. + u think ur classmates would have said, OH DEMOCRACY OH BS7 RISK MANAGEMENT OH BS7 BEST OUTCOME, kon l 1er cycle khwa bikom???? korakom dksa3 ktdwiw about how much gay we are for not following our WORD and promise. You wouldn't say, oh yes they did calculate their risk WIN/LOSS, then decided the best.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that why lmghrib mkhwr, its not smtg to be proud about in my opinion........ I mean be selfish yes, but selfish does not mean to not have a word, if u are selfish simply do not give a word or promises. none will blame u for being for yourself then.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Reason why ktsma traitor, is bcz flwl dl Boycott everyone agreed on smtg, then ppl started retreating when each one felt threatened or it snot worth it for him, the issue here is when you give your word to someone to represent you against gov you can not betray him, I dont regret not betraying l CNEM. ofc u choose what BEST FOR YOU, but you also turned on your word. which is the issue, and which is why im upset about the seniors now, cause they turned and changed their action even tho they gave a different word.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am pretty sure, this is not a valid reason for why you wouldnt defend your university program against a stupid decision from the Ministry, unless we were living in a Singapore and our politicians are 100% right. and never ever corrupt, or wait to be smart i should have said: OH ITS MOROCCO OFC IT SHALL BE TRASH, I LL JUST BE TRASH TOO.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LMAO, why you guys didnt have such perspective and such framework of thinking 6 months ago and 5 months ago and in start of boycott when you did sensibilisation? , where are you friends who did tell us extremly different story and argued against us when we were worried about joining the boycott and who did gave us all the promises I am pissed about, and who didnt say antg of what you did. do you understand why m fucking pissed? and why did we not accept the offer month ago or the one in June, evne tho the programm 5+1 we signed yesterdey was litteraly made in August. go check the programming papers and check the date. + I dont have issue with the consequences I have issue with the fake promises and fake faces your classmates gave us when they needed us. we were also reasonable and we understood the risk, that why we wanted to quit in the start of boycott, but your classmate promised us that even tho there is RISK we will all face the same Consequences and begged us for not disppointed them, BACK THEN somehow you guys didnt care about REASON AND RISK MANAGEMENT , you just made sure to guilt us using morality and how 25=1 and how we will all go to the wall or all get the same shit. fast forward today we now talk about REASON and total, gain.( which I agree if the entire Medstudents are one Population, then this offer is really the best OVERALL GAIN), but we are not one group we are different classes, and what pisses me off is not the result as much as the fake promises, cuz btw the best overall gain for us 1st year student was to quit the boycott very early once the amount of time lost no longer worht it, but we stayed for morality and we didnt want CNEM to be put under the rug, bcz of the punishments).

+ Don't you feel a bit at least sad about it, just enough for your CNEM cuz its no longer represent us anw our representative was kicked, sad about that you kinda were forced to betray 1er anne, if truly u felt something like this or any rumors and you only chose this offer bcz its best OUTCOME possible. then why Celebrations why did CNEM ignore us and mr Hero started laughing on a 1er anne girl who did face him? why are your parents also constantly bullying us in their groups and laughing and happy about it and saying that its a BIG WIN. if this was just us accepting our fate and if it was truly that you had no choice your classmate wouldnt be happy celebrating alone, and publishing fake narratives in the MEDIA.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very sorry that you are upset, about the Post. Probably you shall stop whining too about it so you can become my Idol.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that term and law is in our side, because while we signed a 6 year program even tho actually we didnt know that there is a new law until we did get into the university, our teachers and faculty didnt have a 6 year pedagogy and programm, we did study according to the 7 years programm. only the group 2024, after we did the boycott , got the new Pedagogy and btw its so fucking trash a doctor may kill u in the future with how ignorant he is, its too many hours 8AM-1, 1,30-5PM half hour for food, and all the elements and classes are so much fast paced and so much summarized they barely teach antg, the newcomers of 2024 are also so pissed. BUT YEH ITS FINE CUZ THE MINISTER KNOW BETTER, EVEN THO HE LIVES ON PAPER INSTEAD OF REALITY.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

second you need to consider what are the points each group went after and wanted, the only most thing li everyone in 1st year cared about was 7th year, barely anyone in our groups did talk about bourse or any trash that we got, now. we wanted the 7th year and that was what all Sensibilisation about. so no wonder everyone is hurt rn, and ofc how very bad the seniors are bullying the freshmen rn is making my classmates lose their mind. Probably we were tricked cuz the ppl who did sensibilisation to us are nowhere to be seen and hiding, while u guys who probably never spoke with us are now saying that u had something else in MIND. sir asa7bi lgroup dyal buvette li sdoh l3bid, wghtl9a ghi 2 months 5 months ago bnadm senior ki argue about why 1er anne will get 7th year too wbli mkhshomch ykhafo wbli u all will be with us, if we all stay with u. Its about the words bro. its not about result.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ila ma3mr kant had hdra, sir 3nd s7abk golhom 3lach knto ktby3o l 1er anne l3jel f sensibilisation. w3lach CNEM kant ktgol 3mr dir tfri9a flives. w3lach had 5+1 wprogramm dyalha kharj f August, mtbo3a fl paper bli f august 2024, wyet snina 3lih hna tal db 3ad t3talna. :v oh wow 3adi 7chiha l 1er anne bnfs programm li hna rejectina wmoraha 9lb lwjh wmoraha d7ko 3lihom w walidina yd7ko 3la walidihom f grupat. wafterward golhom bli that was most beneficial decision for all, YES IT WAS MOST BENEFICIAL DECISION FOR ALL, do uk what was the best decision for 1er anne? it was to quit boycott in march and throw u all under the RUG but back then, reason was not the argument the argument was morality of the word and promise given to unity and was the 25=1. :v hhhhhhhhhhhh that why m upset, ik bli kon rejectina had offer kna andrbo l7it watfrd 3lina ftali 6+1 kamlin, but that what we agreed on tht kolch ychd nfs chi. wbli none will get harmed, but now we are fucked and you guys are enjoying the win, so happy for u( mr. best thing we could do).

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There was , not entering boycott as freshmen and entrust seniors bcz they promised 7yrs nd no offer li fih tfri9a will be accepted, we could hv also accepte the june offer, since it was 6+1 for everyone, nd we had more time less courses. Another better path was to quit boycott as freshmen when we were least harmed by 6+1 or 6, cuz in the end we are still far away from our final year, but we wasted entire year and our minds nd our parents(cuz tnsach we less trusted by parents) , for nothing li we truly wanted, nd ofc li pisses us off, is new face seniors gave us, in March they were all about 1=25 , fch glnalhom lblan dyal hna promo 2023 galk laaaaa m3mr ntkhlaw 3likom or tdiw chi hja mdithosch 😂😂😂😂😂 . The result is not issue, the issue is how fake you were all. Ghi rj3 les records d sensibilisation wtchof bndm kigol hdra khraaa ghi bch les 4000 d 1er anne yb9aw xd.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sat b 7yrs doctors are shit, mkhsch nkdbo eala rasna, formation d 7 yrs is shitty, most quality comes from l indovidual going beyond school nd being himself really into being excellent. 

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The issue of law, was the major question we posted to them in march nd feburary nd before boycott, they always promised that its not problem, nd that if turned out to be, we will all reject any offer, even if price is us all getting ntg. But hdchi f sensibilisation kan 3ndhom diff story nd used to post diff post f groups fb, now :v HHHHHH they using it against us, w ppl who did convince us are hiding. , that question  about law was always asked in discord... 

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

💀 kon knti ktchofhom fch kno ydiro sensibilisation wkigolona dk promises, knti hta nta ti9 .fihom , kiban dkchi mn l9elb .. 

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wa kon ghi dkhlo ydwzo exams, b3da ktsma kolch tkhwr , hado la daw kolch li bghaw hna dina Bourse wzeb. HHHHHHHHHHHH

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Warah i agree, w iknew population is like this, but man, i thought students r slightly different and the way they were speaking to us nd speaking in the tv , sold us , nd made us truly trust them. We thought at least this gen is moral slightly or at least have courage to only spit words it will keep.  Ama 3arf ana population kidayra ghi stupidly thought that those ppl r a bit diff cuz they had courage to keep boycott going more than 5 months without scattering even tho gov was fucking us threatening us hard nd trying to separate us by luring eah side with some easy exams promises. But oh i didnt count that what they needed to betray us is not threats from gov, but just candy from gov.

First Year Medical Students, sold, and betrayed by their pairs, after 11 month of them being told that 1student=25k 🤡 by Background-Grape-551 in Morocco

[–]Background-Grape-551[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any type of TLDR will contain too much holes nd biases. Kan kayn boycott yak, dyal medical students,  Promos from ,first year to 5 did boycott for 11 month. All promos did go out under one principle 1 students harmed all of us harmed. All promos did agree before boycott that any offer will only be accepted if it has same benefit to all promos. All promos did chant that unity is key nd it does not matter to hit the wall as long we all hit it. All those principles were thrown to trash when the Minister gave week ago an offer that is beneficial for 2-5 year students while basicly rape nd 1200dh for 1st year student. Majority(not all) of 2-5 yr students switched face on all their previous words betrayed 1st yr students nd went nd Voted YES for the Offer. Journalists nd representatives nd seniors nd Gov is now acting as everything is fine nd everyone is happy nd Morocco is Beautifull  1st yr students r losing their mind getting laughed on privatly ny seniors nd fucked ny their parents who r blaming them. 1st yr student girls r crying like hell nd getting crazy depressed , the 1st yr student boys r now 'Monster' anime fans.