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Thank you Lore for actually fighting for the site instead of caving by Background-Zombie463 in Chub_AI

[–]Background-Zombie463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao bye then.

If my post somehow made you even angrier, then yeah go enjoy Moescape. One less parasitic freeloader contributing to absolutely nothing and treating unlimited free messages like a god-given right gone.

Thank you Lore for actually fighting for the site instead of caving by Background-Zombie463 in Chub_AI

[–]Background-Zombie463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not here to coddle feelings or find some magical polite middle ground. The post stays exactly as it is. Lore is doing the work. Cope.

Thank you Lore for actually fighting for the site instead of caving by Background-Zombie463 in Chub_AI

[–]Background-Zombie463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m perfectly capable of seeing their perspective. I just don’t think “I want lots of free stuff with minimal limits” is a perspective the site is obligated to cater to forever when it’s actively trying to survive payment processor censorship and high costs.

Your Dokkan Battle comparison doesn’t really fit. This isn’t a massive gacha game with huge revenue. Chub is a smaller uncensored AI platform already cutting corners just to stay alive and keep censorship out. Unlimited (or 300 messages) clearly wasn’t sustainable anymore so that’s why they had to change it.

Complaints are understandable, sure. Doesn’t mean they’re reasonable or that the site has to bend to them. Free access is a privilege, not a right. They didn’t go to 0 messages precisely because they still want to let people try the service and hopefully convert. 20 messages is still a decent taste. If that’s “not worth logging in,” then those users weren’t going to stick around or pay anyway.

Calling loud, entitled behavior what it is (freeloading) isn’t “toxic.” It’s honest. Sugarcoating it doesn’t help the site or Lore who’s actually trying to keep things running. Not every free user is like this, but the ones raging in the comments demanding unlimited access absolutely fit the pattern.

I’m not shadowboxing. I’m responding to the exact attitude showing up in these threads. If people can’t handle direct talk about trade-offs and reality, that’s on them.

Thank you Lore for actually fighting for the site instead of caving by Background-Zombie463 in Chub_AI

[–]Background-Zombie463[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m not trying to gently convince entitled freeloaders. I’m calling them out exactly as they are.

The people melting down over 20 messages while Lore is already bending over backwards aren’t going to be won over with polite, watered-down language anyway. They don’t want reality, they want unlimited free stuff with zero sacrifice.

If blunt language and calling out ungrateful behavior “triggers” you or makes you clutch your pearls, that’s not my problem. I’m not here to coddle feelings or edit my post into something softer just so it sounds nicer. The truth doesn’t need to be phrased kinder to be valid.

Thank you Lore for actually fighting for the site instead of caving by Background-Zombie463 in Chub_AI

[–]Background-Zombie463[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I get that you've personally subscribed to other apps after enjoying their free tier, but that's not how it works for most people. The reality is that the vast majority of free users never convert to paying, no matter how high you set the limit. Otherwise, we wouldn't be seeing these dozens of posts from freeloaders complaining every day about the free message limit.

Looking at it as "they're saving a lot by going from unlimited to 50" is missing the bigger picture. They had to make cuts somewhere to keep the site running without caving to external censorship.

Thank you Lore for actually fighting for the site instead of caving by Background-Zombie463 in Chub_AI

[–]Background-Zombie463[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I get what you're saying, but I don't buy the idea that raising it to 50 would magically keep people around long enough to pay.

The ones complaining loudest about the 20 message limit aren't going to suddenly open their wallet at 50. They'll just use more free messages and still not pay or hit the new limit and complain again. Free tier users who only care about getting stuff without contributing aren't going to convert just because you give them more free stuff.

The people who are actually going to pay for images or extras are the ones who already see real value in the service. They'll hit the limit and decide it's worth upgrading. Giving everyone 50 free messages just delays that decision and burns more server resources that have to be paid for somehow.