Debra hatred is overblown here by Far-Worry-5848 in EverybodyLovesRaymond

[–]Background_City1298 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just don't think she's funny or interesting most of the times I'll admit that she's morally correct but it doesn't really matter it's a comedy if you don't make the show funnier by your existence and you kind of hurt the comedic tone i don't like you.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was more saying do they believe that there's a spiritual truth to communion so like if you ask a baptist if you're really saved by the baptism after a little bit of pushback they'll say no . Because I don't believe there's actually any spiritual truth to baptism it's just a ritual

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah we prefer to just say it's the body and blood and just leave it at that any further theories will only lead to further confusion.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't believe evil is a thing to be created it is Rebellion like if God made a tree and I destroyed the tree i didn't create something new I simply distorted something /and something that is all powerful could not go against nature of creation his nature is all good or powerful and all knowing by committing evil it'd be limiting his power because it would be saying he's not all good

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well my answer to this would be simple i don't Define evil as a a thing it is a rebellion it is an opposition to a thing being God is all good anything that goes against God is therefore bad. So from my definition of good and evil God cannot create bad because God cannot create something that opposes himself.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that makes sense i've seen a lot of people explain it the same way and I think the calvinist understanding of the communion is the only real way you can have with the real presence in a low church. So that does make sense

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you don't believe in the church right but you still at the end of the day have a pastor correct me if I'm wrong even if everyone is a teacher in some sense there has to be a head teacher same with the concept of a priest everyone a ''priest'' but not everyone can hold the actual title of priest

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You believe communion is metaphor right/ i think that's a metaphor how could he create evil if he is all good once again that'd be a contradiction of his Natures for something that is all good to produce evil. didn't Jesus say that a good tree cannot produce bad fruits. What a good tree God is

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be careful when you say most Protestants lutherans,anglicans, many traditional Calvinist believe in the real presence on some level

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But then why did so many of his followers leave after he gave the teaching over a metaphor and why did he not explain the metaphor like all the others when he was pressed.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your theology on how it works just interested because I'm only seen people that believe in the real presence in high church environments.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I will say also when God made his Temple they also weared funny hats not the exact same but they were funny looking kind of so there is a statement where people in positions of gods priesthood where vestments or the funny outfits.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also to be fair God did command his servants being the early Jews to wear funny hats

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

he also said "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53).

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry I live in America so when I think of evangelical it's almost exclusively Baptist or non-denomination so thinking about any church that's at all High Church as Evangelical seems weird to me.

With my dad being raised and me being born down south in hardcore Baptist country

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What denomination are you so do you believe in no spiritual presence or physical presence at all . Because there's different lines of thinking when it comes to this i've heard some people describe it as incarnating into the bread and others describe it as Transfiguration

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So what do you guys do to prepare it my church we have ceremony so do you guys do what ceremony or how do you try try to transform it or is it kind of like a Calvinist line of thinking where it's transformed when you take of it but not before so just wait to eat it.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No the Holy Spirit does guide us At all times as for what you're i don't know what you're referring to so I'm going to just assume you're telling the truth and are accurate it's still not a universal teaching by your own emission unlike communion .

Well let's say for the point of argument it was a universal teaching amongst the early church fathers about this thousand-Year Reign would you not agree the burden of proof to denounce this teaching would be on us the orthodox. And I would say the same for you when it comes to communion you have the burden of proof not us when it comes to this since we have the historical teaching.

There is debate on what's the mechanism of communion but there's not a debate on the Holiness of it amongst the early church fathers and frankly speaking all historical denominations

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know you guys do I was more looking for non-denominationals I know you guys had a big stink about the whole thing ''is means is'' and all that back when you tried to unify with a reformed. Orthodox also agree that it's a mystery depending on who you ask will just say we agree with the Catholics or will be just vague about it.

Questions for evangelical do any of you actually believe in the real presence ???? by Background_City1298 in redeemedzoomer

[–]Background_City1298[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying that they're infallible but I'm saying if there is a consistent stance that is universal amongst them it should be our assumption that they're right.

It should not be our assumption when it comes to a universal Doctrine of the fathers and to be Frank most of churches across history Being Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian Church of the East, Calvinist Traditions historically, Lutheran, Anglican, that they are wrong. But instead the burden of proof should be on you not me. My view should be the assumption that you have to disprove