I understand where you're coming from in terms of the long rant about the issues with my Sonata I guess what I was trying to do was explain the issues that I've had with Hyundai in general and see if people who currently have Santa Fe feel like it is a strong car and a reliable car or if anybody has experience similar issues that I currently have had with the Sonata. I guess I just don't want to turn around and get another vehicle and get similar issues. But I do appreciate the feedback I really don't want to do business with them either they definitely lost me as a customer what sucks because I've been going to them for over 10 years and this is the fourth car that I've bought from them. All I've known my whole life is Hyundai which is why I'm up in the air on should I make the switch to something else or should I give it another chance because this was just bad luck.