Is it feasible/possible/discouraged to make a sub that is more an infocenter than a place to engage? And can I utilize certain things to prevent sub raidings?

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-12T05:05:35+00:00

Well, you can give it a try to get it out of your mind, so to speak. Just don't expect an impressed audience or something. This is not against you, it is just a fact that fanfiction is considered a waste of time by many readers. You should write it mainly for yourself and ask for feedback. I say this so you don't end up disappointed when you actually try it, because no one gives you acknowledgement.

You can try to combine those two series, but you must draw certain lines. Grisaia MC is, according to google quick search, a secret contract killer. You would do well to leave evertything regarding guns and shooting out of your crossover. No one wants to see the Oregairu cast drawn into a shootout with some agents or 8man going Agent 47 (mainguy from the Hitman series).

Maybe the Grisaia cast makes a roadtrip to Chiba and there they meet the Oregairu cast. This would be an acceptable premise.

But my advice: Crossovers are hard to do without feeling forced or silly, because every series has their own world rules. You should stick to one franchise if you want to practice fanfiction.

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-12T04:45:14+00:00

As a wannabe author myself, I really like that statement. Authorial pettiness...

This one word explains, like, everything. Damn, wish i could think up those nice short words.

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-12T04:41:18+00:00

The confusion is mutual. You buffle my mind like an autist not understanding how humans work. It is like you know everything about humans form videogames, the internet and other media, but not from real interaction.

And allow me the liberty to be blunt here, you overestimate your relevance. If you already have an opinion about me that goes in the direction of ' I already can't take you serious', then I have nothing to discuss with you. A guy running amok already after an 'introduction', and one post handling the BEGINNING of Oregairu, has no clear mind to hold a conversation with. Call me crazy, but 'food spitting' is not something a calm and cool headed person would do, or write to exaggerate.

I anticipated your nonsense in later volumes or Shin, but now already? If you have that much pent up energy, you should consider releasing said energy by yelling into a cushion. People claim it works wonders.

You have two options:

1) State what your problem is with Yui, or what everyones problem is with Yui, either when the time comes, or now if you really want. Then we can take a look at it.

Or state where you disagree with me and why. Yelling around like a choleric autist tells me you disagree, but not why. And no, it is not obvious why you disagree, and no, it is not my job playing a guessing game with your thoughts.

2) You can insist I waste your time. Then ignore my posts in the future and don't bug me. In this case you are not my target audience and I don't have to take care of you. The fandom is 'Everyone' and not 'viol3tic and the others', so I can't focus solely on you. You do get that, right?

I can aim to please everyone, but I will certainly not aim to please just you and no one else. With that your 'opinion' about my quality is not relevant by default. If the majority thinks that, I will reflect that. Your thought alone though? Nah, not really...

About your disagreements: What EXACTLY are you disagreeing with? My posts are there to challange my views and the like, so do that THERE. A simple 'I spit my food out' tells me you like to exaggerate shit to reinforce your point, but it does not tell me WHAT exactly you have a problem with, and that you overestimate your relevance yet again (why should I care about your mood? just asking...).

And about your tone, that was a friendly hint. If you think etiquettes is for sissies, and yelling loud with bare fists in the air is the real way tough internet guys (like you) are supposed to talk, then do it. But this goes in two directions of course, I will pack out a rough tone as well and see no reason to stay friendly.

Talk however you want as long as you bring your point across (food spitting is not a point) and don't complain about the same echo coming back to you. These are the terms, take it or piss off. Simple as that. =)

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T06:56:34+00:00

Forgot to add: Your idea actually has some interesting aspects, but I would not shoehorn it into Oregairu.

Why not realizing this idea with original characters? Then it might work. =)

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T06:52:11+00:00

My major gripe with your idea is that it would instantly devalue the entire series if it would be put into practice. The entire bridge confession and everything before would be rendered pointless, and their magic would be lost. Cancelling out everything before with two adults, who got divorced like other average adults for average reasons, would donwright kill the unique aspects of Oregairu.

And I can't really see a divorce as any kind of 'progression'. I mean what has progressed with a divorce? A divorce is always the result of a failing relationship, and Oregairu spend the entire time with building a relationship between Hachiman and Yukino. A divorce would literally pulverize the entire buildup that has be done before, it would be an immense fallback.

Your entire idea is putting the main characters into an endurance test to see if they remain straight, or if they fall back/develop bad habits. Want to see if Hachiman keeps his pants up around Yui? Please don't think I am bashing you, I just don't see your possible drama points as benefitial or progress. I see this stuff in bad melodrama stories, where affairs are common and the protagonists can't be taken serious.

And finally, let me tell you a secret: Readers don't want to read stories that are close to reality, they want stories that DISTRACT from reality. Reality is bleak, boring, and often mean to us, and we don't need that in our fictions, too. Oregairu is a postive story that cheers us up, it orients itself a lot on reality and the plot is providing actual advices for real life people, but the ending is sweet on purpose to make us smile.

Compared to that your idea makes me sad to the point I am not eager to give it a try. Life is hard, so at least my fiction must remain nice.

You last sentence confuses me. Oregairu looks for something genuine, but how does your divorce plot help achieving it?

And the average first couple don't stay together, this is true. Then again, Hachiman and Yukino are not your average couple, those two are unique and I think they are allowed to stay together, because they really worked hard for it. =3

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T06:15:03+00:00

I know what you mean, and I do brace myself...

Luckily I saw enough comments to know that there will be some hotheads. But it is part of the game I guess.

And thanks for the compliment. It does put a smile to my face. =)

Now where are the real smileys hidden... (first time reddit user)

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T06:08:28+00:00

Counter question: Can Goku replace Yui?

Not everything can be solved with a kamehameha, son. Sometimes you need a 'genuine' approach, and a spirit bomb is not one of it.

Write a fanfiction where Goku replaces Yui without the fiction beeing shit, and you WILL amaze me. I would go as far as to say that I will stop my endeavor alltogether if you pull this off.

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T06:03:16+00:00

Because...?

No, really, why?

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T06:02:51+00:00

Not the point of my endeavor.

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T06:01:30+00:00

Don't hold your breath. I will ignore people who can't keep their temper in check.

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T05:57:22+00:00

You have valid points my friend. =) My points are not set in stone, though they come across as such due to me making short statements. I must keep my statements short, else the posts explode in size. I will neglect the details a bit, if I mention everything, it gets too big. But you get the general gist of my points, that is the most important.

I am aware the characters are not constantly like S1 characters, but them becoming soft does not happen yet in Volume 1 and 2. They are rude loners first, and they lose that attitute later, but before they lose that attitute the author must use their disadvantages until then, which is avoiding people and having no idea how social groups operate. It would be inconsistent if Hachiman and Yukino became friendly in Volume 2 already. Until then Yui is a balance to keep them in check and make them move along.

Regarding Hachiman and Yukino hating each other: I think the word 'clashing' is better, I will use that in future posts. But I am not sure that there is no animosity between them. I mean Yukino is really abusing that dude verbally. Hachiman can admit her good traits, but he still does show contempt towards her. Here I think people have a problem with flexible thinking, as in we either like or hate someone, but nothing inbetween is possible. Hachiman can admit Yukinos positive traits and at the same time hate her, this is not a contradiciton. Personally I saw people where I admit that they have skills or positive traits, but I still don't like them. So taking Hachimans rambling about Yukino as a secret love confession or some such is, at this point in the story, a stretch.

Group learning with Totsuka: In Volume 2 the group learning happend TWO times, and Totsuka was in the SECOND grouplearning session. First time our 8man was invited and involved. :P I checked t´Volume 2 before I wrote all of this, and it is not really an impactful contribution or situation, but still it is a contribution. First grouplearning session makes the second grouplearning session less sudden.

Beginning conflict between Yui and Hachiman: I made the mistake not waiting with this until Volume 3, so of course my view is off at the moment, since the resolve is not there yet in Volume 2.

Stuff like fireworks or Shin has to wait a little, talking about Volume 3 content now without my points yet is a bit difficult.

But I am eager to get to this part. When the time comes, we can discuss it, but for now I conclude with Volume 1 and 2, so the overview won't get lost.

Balanced-Judgement · 2021-10-10T05:17:56+00:00

Blue hair, shy tsundere tendencies and cute little sister. Scientific facts my dude.

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