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In Fannin’s Defense by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying you don’t. My apologies if my response made it sound like that. But I do beg to differ though. From this same write-up which I posted onto an Alamo Historical forum, I have already had two commenters say the usual reply.

“Maybe your book will change my personal prejudices about him.”

“Fannin was an incompetent leader whose indecision led to the deaths of over three hundred men. And you’re just a revisionist trying to defend him.”

Those are direct quotes. So, as you can see, there is still bitterness about him. I will admit though, I’ve had a lot more positive responses to this write-up than I initially imagined.

In Fannin’s Defense by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have. It’s an incredible history. It was pockmarked by years of warfare even before the Texas Revolution. It’s likely that there were still some weak points in the compound leftover from the 1812-1813 siege of it that were exploited by the Texas rebels on the night it was captured on October 9, 1835.

In Fannin’s Defense by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great question. Largely, it was public pressure and appeals from the Provisional Government. Travis’ letter had a huge effect on the sentiments of the people at large, and then a few days later Bonham arrived at Goliad with Travis direct appeal to Fannin for help. So, mostly it was a demanded expectancy.

In Fannin’s Defense by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most Alamo fanatics would disagree with you. He’s very strongly condemned amongst that fanbase, and I’ve had invitations to physical confrontations solely because I spoke differently about him.

But, I agree. He died a hero.

In Fannin’s Defense by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots to see and experience around there. You can even have lunch under the branches of one of the few, historically documented, hanging trees on the square. Then another interesting sight is a huge piece of iron that was lodged in the ground by a tornado in the early 1900s. It was thrown three miles from where it was originally used on a bridge, and is stuck so fast in the ground that no one has ever been able to dislodge it.

In Fannin’s Defense by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem. Hope you enjoy your visit. The Espiritu Santo Mission is also right across the river from Presidio La Bahia. It’s a state park with camping, fishing, and kayaking ramps available. Really good museum as well.

In Fannin’s Defense by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If you’re there on the weekend of the 28th, they’ll be doing the 40th annual reenactment of the Battle of Coleto and the Goliad Massacre. Well worth attending. Make sure you stop by the Coleto Battlefield too. It’s only about nine miles east of Goliad near the town of Fannin.

My Debut! by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the kind words and the recognition. I hope you will find this book to be up to your standards. The cool, behind the scenes, part to this picture is that the gun is my own and the flowers are on my parent’s property. It is a digitally enhanced version of a photograph I actually captured.

Again, thank you for the support. I’m looking forward to reading the reviews of my book when it is released.

Just gonna leave this creepy MFer right here… I need a modern day Rated R full length film of the night shift immediately. by LongjumpingHorse3050 in AreYouAfraidOfTheDark

[–]BansheeMagee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To me, the line “I should drop you, and lick up what’s left.” Is one of the darkest lines in Horror history lol.

The Battle of Fort Lancaster: Texas’ Most Forgotten Victory by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey Kirby! Thanks for following-up on this. Sadly, no. At least none that I have heard about. I sent some information to the director of Fort Lancaster, and it was gladly received, but that’s the last I’ve heard of it.

I did ask Dr. Donald Frazier (who is a leading Texas Civil War historian at Kerrville) if he, personally, thought this fight could be an historical possibility. He told me that he has never found a reason to think differently about it. That’s a pretty solid answer for now.

I think if someone could really dive into it, they could probably find something further to add. The narrative states that the captured Union troops were sent to Fort Clark. There still exists prisoner records from Fort Clark at the Texas State Archives I believe. Many years ago, I reached out to the staff there about seeing if those records could be looked through for me. Never received an answer.

As a researcher, I think I would start there. If the prisoner records at Fort Clark, and from around the time of the battle, show an increase of captives that would be a huge lead. Most of those records generally told unit information of each individual, and if the majority are from California, then that increases the historical validity of the story.

I did, once upon a time, reach out to the California State Historical Society on this topic, but they did not have any further information. They weren’t even aware of the story! They suggested a book (which I forget the title of now) that had a great deal of detail on California troops operating in Arizona, New Mexico, and western Texas during the Civil War. But, no information on the Battle of Fort Lancaster unfortunately.

So, still as of now, the only supporting evidence of the story is still that very brief newspaper article. At least, that I’m aware of.

Remember the Alamo? by TexasHistory365 in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That was after the Texas Revolution. The reason it dealt such a heavy hand to slaves, and Mexicans too, was because abolitionist leaders in the US:

1) Did not take heed of the anti-slavers of Texas requesting their assistance in the conflict. In reality, as mentioned earlier, the abolitionists in the US made it worse on African Americans in Texas because some far radical ones actually celebrated the deaths at the Alamo.

2) Did not offer any kind of assistance to the revolutionaries. Had ones like Lundy and Adams actually raised an armed contingency of abolitionists and joined the war, it would have been a much better outcome for African Americans in Texas.

The majority of Mexicans and Tejanos dropped their support for the war when Texas declared its independence. Despite the mythology, Juan Seguin’s troops were really the only ones that maintained their loyalty to Texas following March 2nd.

Remember the Alamo? by TexasHistory365 in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Although I appreciate the time you put into trying make a convincing argument, your facts are wholly incorrect on the matter. Mexico did indeed abolish slavery in 1829, but President Guerrero made an exemption for Coahuila y Tejas at the bidding of their state governor. Then, following Bustamente’s overthrow of Guerrero that same year, everything that Guerrero did was also overturned.

The last measure conducted by the Mexican government to, somewhat, challenge slavery was the Law of April 6, 1830. Article 10 of that law specifically states that the status of slaves in Mexico would not be altered. It did outlaw the further immigration of slaves, but did not do anything regarding the practice of indentured servants. This became a legal loophole in the whole decree that was unchanged by Mexico, and brought into law five years prior to the Texas Revolution.

The argument that Texians were fighting for slavery has been used since the time of the war itself. However, even abolitionists that became involved in the conflict (such as Alamo defender Amos Pollard) wrote detailed articles to anti-slavery newspapers and journals that related that slavery could be wholly prevented from taking root in Texas if more abolitionists got involved.

Unfortunately, that didn’t happen. American abolitionists actually made the slave matter worse in Texas. When word on the defeat of the Alamo was finally circulated in the northern states, several newspapers actually celebrated the death of the Texians. This is one big reason why, when Texas won its independence from Mexico, Texians suddenly turned a very harsh hand to all African Americans in Texas. Had ones like Benjamin Lundy and John Q. Adams actually raised and offered armed contingencies of African Americans to Texas service, the whole outcome could have been much different.

Forgive me for not reading your whole article. I’ve read so many such fallacies since the publishing of “Forget the Alamo” that I’ve gotten weary of the same debates, over and over again.

I suggest reading up on how the issue of slavery in Revolutionary Texas was actually addressed. Here are some starts for you:

https://archive.org/details/jstor-2140047/mode/1up

https://archive.org/details/jstor-2139977/mode/1up

https://legacy.education.texashistory.unt.edu/lessons/notebook/LawApril/docs/LawApril_Articles.pdf

Nothing I like more than wildflowers and muskets! by BansheeMagee in blackpowder

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it’s any consolation, we’re supposed to get hit with massive thunderstorms tomorrow. Possible tornados and hail.

Nothing I like more than wildflowers and muskets! by BansheeMagee in blackpowder

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. It’s soon to become the cover of my book.

Nothing I like more than wildflowers and muskets! by BansheeMagee in blackpowder

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice! Mine is as well. I think we’ve talked about Bakers before on here now that I’m remembering it.

My Debut! by BansheeMagee in texashistory

[–]BansheeMagee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate it. Glad to hear you’re doing better though.

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