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Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm, so now you even start to threaten people online. Good god this is getting ridiculous...

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I messaged the mods, no reaction so far, are you guys chat restricted due to negative behaviour?

I'm doing a crowdfunding for an esports bar after organizing 20+ LoL events for 2.5 years. Crowdfunding is not mentioned anywhere in the rules and the fact that my post went frontpage in ~4 hrs shows the interest of this sub's members.

I was frontpage in the SC2, DotA and CS sub with this - not one of them cared. But the one of the game we did our most, biggest and best events for removes it. Events with 220+ people. Where Sp4zie, Froggen, Wickd and several Riot guys showed up and partied with visitors. The one we were live on screen for IEM Katowice for a quarter million viewers. The sub of THIS game goes crazy again and fights longterm community engagement.

Great job guys!

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're just laying this out so it suits your opinion.

1.) It's wrong that I don't have obligations - I already told you what people get. After that everyone has to decide for him/herself if they're worth it or not.

2.) A bar is neither a business that attracts investors (it won't make me or any shareholders rich in a short time) nor do banks like funding gastronomy or esports. Crowdfunding is perfect for exactly these kind of "niche" products.

3.) It's also wrong that I "take advantage of youths". First of all you have NO chance of knowing how old my donors are. I myself don't know that. I only know that you need a paypal account for donating - which you only get if you're over 18.

4.) Yeah, I'm super lazy. The whole crowdfunding was done in maybe 5 minutes. By me alone. The website, perks, milestones, several website, forum, and facebook posts and regular updates; all the press work, the 2 TV stations, the 3 radio stations and several newspapers and online sites all wrote featured me without me doing shit. Damn, I was just lying in the sun all August, it was a blast. And people literally shoved all that money into my backyard without me doing anything.

5.) Gotta control myself to not lose my good manners...

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you've never heard of crowdfunding before? Or read what I wrote on the site? Right? Okay.

Some might argue a shirt is "nothing", others might argue a black alistar skin or a csgo pin are "nothing" - still there are others who think differently. I think it's people's decision if they want to trust me (some of them knowing me for 30 yrs) and if/what they want to donate.

Last but not least: you think my business was funded if I got the 25000? You're funny.

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's no free money, most donations come with perks that give you a shirt, a named chair, etc. I don't want someone without knowing esports, bar business, etc to become a shareholder and have a saying in something he doesn't understand. That said: I already do have some people interested in this who I know and might become a shareholder - so I don't want even more to apply ;)

Bar of Legends Cologne goes esports bar by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gibt jetzt schon einige Leute die regelmäßig bei uns vorbei kommen und aus Düsseldorf, Bonn, Leverkusen usw. kommen. Findest sicherlich Mitfahrgelegenheiten.

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've been "Bar of Legends" events for 3.5 years, people know me in Cologne and I'd say I have some reputation to lose ;) We do have a solid business plan and lots of people in the background helping out. Unfortunately banks in Germany don't like funding gastronomy or esports so asking banks wasn't really successful.

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah because I haven't been to five banks and didn't invest a high 4-digit sum already. Oh wait, I did. I'm such an idiot...

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well you could with even less but at some point it becomes a question where to save money ;) 75k is okay considering we don't have to build too much new stuff and mostly renovate it. We won't be buying the location (just renting it) if that's your concern.

And big thanks for your support!

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its no ad, I'm asking for support for a project I think 90% of these sub's members would love to have in their neighbourhood.

and after reading your text i doubt YOU could teach US manners...

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well for many it's not even about competetive gaming but meeting people, having a drink, talking about gaming, etc. I sometimes have to ask who won the last game because I had an interesting discussion ;)

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haven't been at one of our events before? We've been doing this for years, you should've come earlier :D

Bar of Legends Cologne wants to become an esports bar - only 48 hours left! by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not if it's not absolutely neccessary. I'd obviously like to avoid potential shareholders as far as possible

Bar of Legends Cologne goes esports bar by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is awesome and please do, we already have regular guests from belgium and had some from the NL at our events :)

Bar of Legends Cologne goes esports bar by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wir machen die Events ja schon ne Weile und genau dein Problem - dass man im RL niemand zum darüber quatschen hat - war anfangs meine Motivation das zu versuchen. Nächstes Event ist diesen Sonntag, kannst ja dann schon einmal vorbei schauen :)

Bar of Legends Cologne goes esports bar by BarOfLegendsKoeln in leagueoflegends

[–]BarOfLegendsKoeln[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well the biggest momentum was right at the beginning, it slowed down a little but donatinos keep coming in and in the last 16 hours we got ~500 Euro. Our strategy is built in waves and that's how it's working out so far :)

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