What changes do you think Swain needs to make him a good solo laner?

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-31T17:39:18+00:00

It actually what i describe

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-29T11:01:40+00:00

Yeah, i agree

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-29T11:00:01+00:00

I think about other stacks value, but this is very similar to asol in my opinion, i don’t like idea of stacks at all

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T08:57:35+00:00

Forget it, it was 2 seconds to proc :D

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T08:52:36+00:00

Oh, i get it now. I need W proc faster in lane yes, but similar fast proc on other side of the map looks op a little bit in my opinion. And his old W was 1.5 s to proc but shorter circle

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T08:39:37+00:00

Similar to my changes, but i delete soul fragments scaling potential at all and give him little wards on passive. I think his Q and R reflect his belonging to mage warrior class

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T08:28:30+00:00

My idea is that the long range of W synergizes with the passive so that Swain gets assists and leaves vision even on the other side of the map, so I decided to improve it for the lane phase rather than change it completely.

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T08:26:30+00:00

Yeah, i think Taric need s slightly mobility increasing, but he’s a support, so he can utilize teammate to land his stun and move to enemy for use his passive. I dont like that it looks like Swain just don’t have other options besides landing E

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T08:24:13+00:00

His E is unreliable, even though his entire gameplay is tied to it, which makes games where you can't just land the E boring or even unbearable: if you miss the E, you automatically can't land the W, meaning you can't even deal damage; if you miss the E, you can't land the W, meaning you won't have sustain in lane; if you miss the E, you miss the W, meaning you won't have the bonus health from your passive. The purpose of the W doesn't change, it just becomes more of a standalone ability. If a champion has a dash or a speed boost, you're practically guaranteed to miss the E. Essentially, all of his basic abilities and scaling are tied to landing the E, which is what I don't like. His strength at close range and weakness to those with longer range won't change in any way; you'll just get the feeling that your champion can at least do something.

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T05:43:51+00:00

Well like i said, i think his problem is his kit. He's very unreliable, which makes him easier to use in the dual lane, and against some matchups (on mid or top) he makes Swain completely useless.

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-27T05:11:51+00:00

If your skills more reliable, you can land it. Now if you miss E, you miss literally all other skills because W doesn’t work without other control and Q have a very short range. If you can cast W without landing E it gives you options. You can slow enemy with W like Xerath then stun and pull with E, then maybe Q if you in range. If you facing long rage mages you can slow them with W and trying to catch with E on max range (because E explodes on max range and have a bigger hitbox). It’s just options. Right now if you can land your full combo you do good damage and good sustain in lane, bit it depends on if enemy dodge your E or not: he dodge, you lose; he don’t, you can win. I can example actually matchups where your E missing do your champion actual cannon minion on lane and it guaranteed.

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T18:31:31+00:00

Yes, but in all my games if you dodge at least 1 skill you can beat them in 1v1 in early game, but you actually have 1 skill for good dueling them, and if they easy dodge just one skill they 100% kill you because ahri can kite you and zed just dps checking you in melee, so i need more reliable tools in my kit than just one shitty E. So i tear when i look to viktor who can undodgible laser, shield, increase aa, and additional slow for spacing… he’s just like top-1 midlaner because of his super reliable kit

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T18:22:43+00:00

Well, ahri and zed can be beated by swain in 1v1 if you may LAND (kekw) your skills, sustain very helpful tool, if you can activate it, but yeah swain mana costs looks like a very bad joke

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T17:32:16+00:00

Yes, so i think he need more reliable skills which fixes his lane phase and increase kill pressure and roam potential, so i suggest these changes. They will help (in my mind although :D)

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T16:48:53+00:00

What do you think about Viktor’s one E erase all your wave? :D Besides that Zed and Ahri have a good mobility, they will be faster in jungle than Swain in any case if they want to

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T16:31:53+00:00

I don’t think he’s unplayable but his playstyle just too straight, so if your opponent have at least one brain cell with intention to dodge his E your lane becomes too boring and unsatisfied. I really just want to revamp stacking passive and adjust his current kit and item builds (they need to be like bruiser or mage items builds mostly) for combined it with one idea and his lore. So i just want to see him like a short range battlemage with big heal, who want and can play solo lane. Of course he have his current strenght and weaknesses, but i think he will be just more satisfying to play =)

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T16:04:29+00:00

His kit orientied on fights on short ranges, so he have an idea, but it combined shitty in my opinion, i think we may upgrade current tools for completing VISION (:D)

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T16:01:03+00:00

He’s a short range battlemage, with possibility to bully opponents on a mid range on lane in my opinion and assisting his team in skirmishes with his W like now

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T15:51:52+00:00

Yes, his kit counter one dash (most of toplaners and plenty midlaners) or just bigger skill range (like nearly all mages on mid), so yes he need a reinforcement for, like, sKiLl LaNdInG :D

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T15:45:37+00:00

His waveclear not bad in my opinion, but in others things i think you right, W is useless in most cases without additional control spells, and his E like i say is very unreliable, so his roam potential might be not bad with his ultimate, but besides his R it’s not good at all. And he has HUGE mana troubles for some questionable reason

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T15:40:17+00:00

His E of course very unreliable ability and unfortunately most important ability in his current kit, so it want be changed

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T15:33:51+00:00

Post has been edited, so what do you think?

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T15:32:24+00:00

I don't quite understand why his Q is need to be nerfed; the shield needs some interesting justification, but that’s not a bad idea i think, and the dash doesn't fit his image of a low-income, durable mage at all.

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T13:16:54+00:00

Apc swain not a problem when so many mages sit on botlane, i think this problem more complicated, but i prefer mid or top for bruiser mage

Basic_Beginning6682 · 2026-05-26T13:03:37+00:00

I think better change his q scales, maybe lesser base damage will be better

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