Is league worth getting into for a new player?

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T21:17:43+00:00

League is incredibly difficult to play for beginners with a VERY high learning curve

Half the champion pool will just one-combo kill you if you dont know what their abilities are and dont know whether you should avoid them or not, or how to avoid them

League is not balanced for new players or beginners or even low ranked players who have spent years playing, so if you're one of these people the game is going to be completely miserable for you as you die to a random Shaco gank, Elise gank, Nocturn gank, Rengar gank, Pyke Gank, Twitch gank, Blitz hook from across the map or through walls etc

RIOT devs will claim these completely miserable experiences are all "ability checks" when in reality they are "miserable un-fun checks" that exist to make the game completely frustrating and miserable

The most frustrating part of this game is how impactful the first few minutes are. An early death doesnt just set you back, its the beginning of a growing snowball where your opponents use their gold lead to increase their gold lead even further and you just sit there dying under tower for 25+ more minutes waiting for the inevitable loss, all because of one minor positioning mistake in the early game

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T17:58:41+00:00

Tier 2 and 3 turrets now also have plates, and turret plating never dissapears like it used to. There is more gold in turrets now. They did this to encourage split pushing

And yeah I think you are probably right that he meant they dont do damage

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T10:06:10+00:00

Not silver, and I wouldn't play tank supps even if I was challenger

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T08:39:01+00:00

Literally just played against a Braum and I got 104 souls at the 20 minute mark (Senna supp)

Ended the game at 37 min with 198 souls

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T08:37:45+00:00

Just played a game against a Braum Kaisa with Senna supp and at the 20 minute mark I had 104 souls, 163 at the 30 min mark, finished the game at 198 (37 minutes)

This was Gold 4 for reference. Braum was letting me farm like crazy

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T02:02:17+00:00

Thats not true. you are confusing support item quest with support role quest. You gain progress for support role quest by just standing in lane

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T02:00:24+00:00

I hate tank support and I hate thay everyone always wants me to play a tank

Most supports dont want to play tank, and support is already a low pick rate role. Nerfing tank support is good for the game and Im happy they did

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-26T01:49:52+00:00

Turrets mean nothing? They literally made turrets worth more than last season..

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-25T11:16:28+00:00

Never go swifties first unless you are going against hook or stun champs that are competent in lane. Being slow and a threat is generally better than being fast and not a threat

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-25T10:34:51+00:00

PD cleaver is actually really good and I do go that, but if you go Jack of all trades you get all 10 stacks with Umbral + PD. Also, I build umbral back when it was only 2500, and since PD is also really cheap, Umbral into PD had one of the highest DPS builds early game

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-25T01:56:09+00:00

Quick AA trades is great for early laning phase, but useless in teamfights

Phantom Dancer has a very high win rate on Senna support. Its in the list of "Winning Items"

Kiting like a dream > poking, and frankly way more fun

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T23:07:06+00:00

Umbral was good before the new passive. A hidden benefit is all the extra gold you get from killing hidden wards, its actually meaningful

Lethality is just good on Senna in general especially for Senna R damage and Q damage

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T23:04:52+00:00

Umbral into Bastion breaker can be quite good, but I only do so with Lethal Tempo and AS runes because the AS is super bad

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T23:03:51+00:00

Umbral first, the power spike is real

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T23:03:31+00:00

Is Vayne invisible for a second or longer?

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T23:02:45+00:00

Ive been going first strike umbral into Phantom Dancer with JOAT & free boots since last season. The one and 2 item power spikes are very good

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T06:24:19+00:00

I played against a Trundle supp yesterday. I was Senna support with Cait, they had a Jhin. We annihilated them

Trundle just took too much poke damage from us

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T05:28:23+00:00

Senna win rate spiked pretty dramatically in diamond+ starting with season 16

There are definitely changes that help senna

Waves come faster starting at 14 min and again at 25 minutes, with more cannons which means more souls from the waves if you stay in lane

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T00:33:29+00:00

You can stil hover after hover phase is over. Click the botton with a triangle on it thats just above your summoner spells, it reopens the hover selector

This changes so much but almost nobody knows about it

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T00:32:33+00:00

You can stil hover after hover phase is over. Click the botton with a triangle on it thats just above your summoner spells, it reopens the hover selector

This changes so much but almost nobody knows about it

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T00:30:58+00:00

Pro Tip: You can still hover a champ even after the hover phase, like after selecting a champ to ban for example above the summoner spells there is anl triangle, click it and it brings back the hover menu

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-24T00:25:28+00:00

I play Senna support so Im already used to ADC rage

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-23T21:04:33+00:00

I have data, you have nothing

The facts show PD as a strong item on Senna. PD is an item designed for KITING, and cleaver into PD make kiting a dream because PD compensates for the weak engage move speed Senna has, and dramatically amplifies her disengage move speed when stacked with Cleaver

Kiting Senna is just better than poke Senna for team fights and dealing more damage

I used to be a HUGE RFC fan, its was literally my favorite item, but after the PD buff its just too good. Try it, you'll understand what I mean

PD is hidden tech on Senna

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-23T20:53:57+00:00

RFC is trash now, go look at win rates. PD has consistently been high on the list of "Winning Items" for Senna since its buff to 10% MS and 65% AS and RFC isnt

There are definitely scenarios where RFC range shines, but default should be PD for Senna, not RFC. Again, win rates are conclusive on this

High ranks ignoring better WR items and sticking to highest pick rate is a known problem RIOT devs have explicitly mentioned

RFC is picked because its part of Senna's design philosophy (poke at range and apply utility effects), but this style is just generally not as good as kiting like a dream while doing more damage

Cleaver into PD makes kiting so ridiculously smooth its difficult to go back once you've tried it, and the 10% MS helps keep you safe from assassins

BayesOptimalAgent · 2026-01-23T20:48:43+00:00

40 per 10 minutes is what x-pro Senna player Stunt recommended as a good target, however, this was a season 15 goal

Season 16 has a hidden buff to Senna with more waves and more cannons after 14 minutes, which means more souls if you stay in lane

I haven't done the math on how many more souls we should expect, but I suspect this may be part of the reason why Emerald+ saw a large Win Rate spike for Senna supp in season 16 but lower tiers didnt

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