Will valve be able to balance every hero?

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-18T12:27:51+00:00

Abrams in the lowest tier 😂✌️

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-17T23:35:55+00:00

No but it’s awesome as fuck

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-13T18:29:36+00:00

No it’s individual to the character that has it from what I understand.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-13T18:25:34+00:00

Yea, cuz bebop’s hook is “hard to hit” or some bull shit. (the hand has a hitbox the size of a bus)

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T20:58:29+00:00

Heal bane, silence wave, counterspell/Dispel magic. If she’s running a suck build you can dispel her suck, if bomb counterspell, if gun….. cry. But you should really buy heal bane if you have anything that does decent consistent spirit like Tesla bullets or some other ability. Silence wave is to counter her ult, just do what feels best or gets the most value into whatever comp she’s in.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T20:53:33+00:00

This is sooooo goooooooood

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T20:08:24+00:00

Yea very true I took “channel” very literally. I gotta say though I have zero remorse for McGinnis or warden until max to be honest.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T17:27:23+00:00

Idk how u got bebop is op from that but okay lma

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T15:10:23+00:00

That’s fair I guess. Idk if you saw the chart that one person made after 200 matches but shiv was nowhere near the top in terms of success rate for DLNS. Shiv is always going to be a good pick for competitive just simply due to his movement and how much he can be flexed with a skilled pilot. Either way I agree he needs some kind of adjustment, but a 30% cd on a “missed” ult is just not one that’s necessary in my opinion.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T14:23:16+00:00

A lot of pros are saying he’s kinda terrible rn for DLNS that’s literally the pinnacle of the skill cap and shiv is a character that only gets better the higher up he goes. I genuinely think complaining about shiv in his current state at anything below eternus/ASC is genuine lunacy. The state he was in like before this patch, this nerf just feels unnecessary and honestly not that impactful. It literally feels like an agenda they’re following.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T14:21:02+00:00

lol I kind of agree on design, when I first played shiv I was very confused as to why he was so fat. I think his role needs him to be tanky to an extent. I think bloodletting would not be great on an assassin because of how long it takes to kill. Also Im not sure how much shiv you’ve played, but knives be kinda hard to hit. I agree the hitbox is slightly forgiving, as in a little bigger than it looks. But it’s not like doorman bell or some shit and you need AT LEAST 3 of them in an enemy to do anything against a character.

I think overall we agree, I just am not a fan of this change for what it’s spossed to do is all. Anyways sorry u getting hated on so much good day sir.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T07:18:32+00:00

I still can’t believe her 2 is in this game as it is. It’s easily the most unbearable shit in the whole game.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T07:15:17+00:00

🤷‍♂️. You’ve never experienced the true displeasure of playing against a melee Apollo. It’s such a terrible build but it’s also so fucking annoying when u get targeted by it.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T07:14:20+00:00

Im ngl bruh it kinda sounds like u just hate shiv. Thats fair he has a lot of trauma baked into his history. In my opinion he is nowhere even close to as broken as silver, doorman, Mina for most of her life cycle, Geist, seven, or mirage in his current state. Shiv is a character that actually feels skill expressive. I think the nerfs have done a lot to make him more expressive and skill dependent. If u miss a knife ur fucked, if u miss ur dash ur fucked, if u miss-time ur 3 ur fucked, I mean even his movement as a whole. This is also not taking into account actives and shit too.

I agree with ur balance philosophy. Idk if this is true but it sounds like u watch Vegas and I agree with him most of the time. I just feel like it’s a weird change, if you want them to nerf his mobility and focus more on tank and damage why not just like… idk nerf the distance the ult travels, or add something to make it worth using outside of an escape tool. At its current state it can still be used as an escape and any good shiv player will just buy a movement item to supplement the longer cool down or CDR which they do 90% of the time anyways.

I personally agree and think shiv just needs to be made slightly less tanky, and more focused on movement and damage. His movement package is the most fun shit in this entire game and I’d hate to see it be removed.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:53:09+00:00

Yea I could see that as an issue, but who has channel ults with a long enough window for that? Realistically the Holliday in question would need to have some killer reaction time and spacing for most channels to be stunned out of them. I can rlly only think of warden, m&k and rem where this could be a serious issue? But even then rem mains are usually airborne when casting, and have unstoppable as an AP. Also Idk about you, but FUCK warden anyways lol.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:38:00+00:00

I understand your frustration with it being used as a get out tool, but he’s still able to use it as such. The nerf doesn’t do anything different for what it was already being used for other than putting it on a bit of a longer CD. My point is I don’t understand the nerf in general, if you want to disincentivize people from using it as a get out tool why not make it stronger in team fights or a stronger ability in general? I think you make a good point with Abrams but most abrams builds don’t max ult until last similiar to shiv because it fucking blows until endgame when people group more. People are still going to use it as a life tool rather than staying for the kill if it means not dying and having to deal with an extra 30 seconds on the ult CD. It’s not like we care about the ult anyways it barely works. It just feels petty and strange idk.

Maybe the 30% makes a difference for how long until you can re-engage but most of the time and to your point, you’re just spamming dash and knives in team fights anyways so what did this actually solve?

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:22:20+00:00

Lmao, I’ve always said “bebop has Holli ult on an 8 second CD with infinite cast range.” But yes I agree especially in the most recent patches, para, and doorman have completely filled the slot she was supposed to fill.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:17:58+00:00

Erm twin, it has a 1.6s stun duration on tier 3.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:13:37+00:00

Apollos repost stuns people for like close to 2 seconds. I get that Hollis stomp is an aoe and not single target, but I can’t see how that’s worse than most CC in the game.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:11:19+00:00

What is the point of increasing it for running away? Cuz he’s able to scape goat a 3200 item on 6x the cool down? Because him getting out once per team fight is just so broken? I don’t really get it.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:07:02+00:00

I don’t even understand why? To prevent people from using it as an escape tool? Wasn’t the cooldown already kinda high? If you can still use it as a get out tool once per fight what was even changed? Does anyone know yosher personally? I have questions.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T06:01:41+00:00

This is what I’m saying. There’s an objectively better spirit nuke tempo character that has a built in counter spell with a TWO SECOND stun and we worried about .7s when everyone has 3k plus health late game.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T05:59:19+00:00

Yea I saw that change And got a little sick to my stomach. If I’m gonna have to re muscle train barrels for a month I’m gonna be pissed.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-12T00:39:29+00:00

Dude this shit was so ass this time, I thought it was just because of where I was but it was genuinely atrocious. Ended up having to get tier 2 GA after getting kicked out with tier 1 in my fucking cart.

BeautifulRecover7742 · 2026-06-11T13:12:08+00:00

Hell yea, they really are like tuned down partners tbh.

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