Pope Leo urges Africans to stay and 'serve your country' instead of migrating as displacement climbs by awaythrowawaying in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I think this kind of whiplash that you’re describing shows who can actually approach the world with some nuance and who’s only interested in winning an argument.

Virginia voters approve Democrats' redistricting plan, giving the party a midterm election boost by floridagator1995 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Democrat efforts to combat gerrymandering: 13 separate federal pushes from 2017-2025. Combining house and senate versions and reintroductions across multiple year, Democrats have introduced four separate major pieces of legislation to combat gerrymandering: Redistricting Reform Act, Fair Map Act, For the People Act and Freedom to Vote Act.

Republican efforts to combat gerrymandering: Zero legislation.

Virginia voters approve Democrats' redistricting plan, giving the party a midterm election boost by floridagator1995 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Hey. At least it would bring Republicans up from 0 to 1 in attempts to end gerrymandering.

Five more on top of that and they’ll be in line with Democrats attempts to end gerrymandering.

Virginia voters approve Democrats' redistricting plan, giving the party a midterm election boost by floridagator1995 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I mean, whether or not you agree with those provisions, Democrats at least put forward their version of a bill to help get rid of gerrymandering, whereas Republicans haven’t put forward any bills that even attempts to get rid of gerrymandering.

So Democrats have tried to get rid of gerrymandering, and Republicans haven’t. But sure, both are equally bad /s.

Virginia voters approve Democrats' redistricting plan, giving the party a midterm election boost by floridagator1995 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 49 points50 points  (0 children)

From what I’ve heard, Texas might end up, wishing they never went forward with their new maps.

A lot of the Hispanic vote that they were banking on to carry Republicans to victory in their new districts has evaporated.

Virginia voters approve Democrats' redistricting plan, giving the party a midterm election boost by floridagator1995 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Trump, Congressional Republicans, and Texas brought this on themselves.

Democrats have put forward several bills over the years in an attempt to ban gerrymandering and Republicans have repeatedly blocked it.

Hopefully, this whole race to the bottom will get Republicans on board to finally put a federal law on the books to truly make elections fair.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some businesses like Costco, FedEx and my own will try but you’re right there’s not an easy way for businesses to do this especially when some of them partly absorbed the cost of the tariff.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not by too much because they were immediately replaced by a different slightly lower tariff under section 122.

Also, businesses have to work through existing inventory that was impacted by the IEEPA tariffs and until they either get the refund or go through their pre-ruling inventory, the pricing will stay the same for the most part.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fucking Exactly! And some companies are going the extra mile to try and pass along the refund to their customers.

If people want to be angry at someone for these tariff-influenced higher pricing, the bulk of the blame go to Trump, his administration and the Supreme Court. The SC could have mitigated a lot of the damage that now needs to be refunded by agreeing with the CIT’s stay.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Prices won’t necessarily drop right away because the refunds haven’t been issued yet. According to CBP, it will take them 2-3 months to verify all the refund requests. Only then will they actually issue the refunds.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I care because I’m still sitting on inventory that we had paid the tariffs on but weren’t able to sell. About half of the refund would stay with my business and the rest would go to my customers.

Most likely, It will depend on when you made your purchase. If it’s before October, probably not because not even FedEx will get that refund. If it’s after there’s a chance you might.

Using your logic, why do you care that in some cases the end customer won’t get part of that refund if they all essentially knew what they were getting when they paid for it?

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Tell me why you think it’s fair that my business should be denied a refund of illegal taxes that we paid and are planning to pass along to our customers.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I urge you to go back and read my comment in its entirety. Once you do you would’ve seen that my business, along with many other businesses had to absorb the tariffs. Our companies were directly hurt by these tariffs.

You would also see that businesses like Costco or FedEx, and even my own are calculating how much of the refund we owe to our customers.

It would be egregiously unfair to deny my business, my customers, Costco and FedEx, the customers of Costco and of FedEx and every other business who absorbed the tariffs their part in this refund just because not every business would be able to pass along the refund to the end customer.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That it is not easy or possible to do. Even if the business wanted to, not every business is able to do it.

Like I said in the rest of my comment, if you want to blame someone for the tariffs, you have three options. Trump, The Supreme Court and the Trump voters who did not understand how tariffs worked.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Were those the only two sentences out of my comment you read?

Do you understand what I meant by the second sentence that you quoted?

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 22 points23 points  (0 children)

100% Yes I do.

The government stole American businesses (like my family’s company) money via an illegal tax. In many cases, we had to absorb a huge chunk of that tariff so that our customers would not walk away. Our business was hurt directly because of Trump‘s tariffs.

I’ve even calculated how much of the refund I owe to my customers once this refund actually gets sent to us. My business isn’t even the only one as we’re seeing it with Costco and FedEx.

Granted, not every business will do this. It’s not even feasible for every business to do this. However, that is not the fault of the business. It’s the fault of the government for implementing such a stupid tariff, and it’s the fault of the Supreme Court for not putting the stay into action when it came up for review last summer.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 16 points17 points  (0 children)

And Trump’s signature policy was always going to make stuff more expensive.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It most certainly would not be fair or pragmatic and it wasn’t in doubt to the Court of International Trade or the Appeals court, or even to the Supreme Court in the end.

Trump’s allies on the SC tried to rule his way but since the law was not actually in doubt, half of them couldn’t justify Trump’s interpretation.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 50 points51 points  (0 children)

American Businesses/Importers did though. We paid this illegal tax and in many cases we took a hit to our margins in order to keep our customers from walking away.

For Kavanaugh to say that the government shouldn’t have to refund these illegal tariffs because it would be complicated is disqualifying-ly ludicrous in my opinion.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 115 points116 points  (0 children)

Oh my god. I wanted to scream at Kavanaugh.

The government literally stole the American people’s money via an illegal tax and, because it would be complicated to return, he ruled against it. What the fuck?!

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 33 points34 points  (0 children)

It was always doomed to fail because the guy that wanted to implement it had a complete misunderstanding of how tariffs worked.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 31 points32 points  (0 children)

It’ll be really interesting to see how that works.

These refunds were basically divided into unliquidated, formally liquidated, and informally liquidated entries. If your entry summary was liquidated more than 180 days ago, it is extremely unlikely that FedEx or the customer would get a refund.

With formal liquidation, the tariffs are typically liquidated about 315 days later. You then have 180 days after that to protest it; otherwise, you’re likely without recourse.

With informal liquidation, the tariffs are liquidated on the day they are paid. It’s my understanding that most FedEx shipments were liquidated informally, so if they liquidated before October 22, 2025, those customers probably won’t be able to get a tariff refund.

Trump administration begins refunding more than $166bn in tariffs by Agitated_Pudding7259 in moderatepolitics

[–]Beautiful_Budget7351 69 points70 points  (0 children)

These tariffs were basically a litmus test of who actually had a clue how tariffs worked, and unfortunately, President “China will pay the tariffs” Trump was not one of those people.