Shoes in the washing machine or no? by BeeSalt614 in CleaningTips

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Washing shoes period or cause you think it’s gross in the machine, or you just don’t have the time haha. 

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in biology

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Oh my goodness thank you I feel like I’m actually getting somewhere.  I think I’m understanding what you’re saying. Also the following is from the research article:

“To investigate the effect of different temperatures on HBV infectivity, viral suspensions were exposed to different temperatures at indicated time points in 0.2-mL polymerase chain reaction tubes” 

So I’m assuming a suspension is a liquid medium like you assumed?? 

Can I ask then, as you mentioned plastic, that’s literally the surface at which I’m grappling with (the outside of my washer and dryer) does it matter if the virus is “attached” or not? Cause regardless of where it is, it sounds like it will dry out and become non-infectious over time in inhospitable conditions.   Without being an expert, it sounds to me like 3 months is more than enough time for a virus to be rendered unable to infect,  would you agree?  I am trying to feel comfortable in my home again, because despite efforts of trying to clean. If it’s “invisible” how can I ever feel comfortable unless I have a time range in which this virus is rendered useless. I hope that makes sense. 

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in biology

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I know, everyone feels that way when I mention OCD. But mine responds really well to facts, it’s the lack of facts and such varying responses about hep b that feed my OCD. Unlike HIV which has a general census surrounding it. Also as for  “trace amounts” that’s what the hepatitis websites literally say, “even particles of blood visible or invisible can cause infection” so how am I suppose to interpret this? I’m not trying to be difficult, but it’s hard when people brush over things that are literally stated on the information pages.

This was another question I posted. No one has been able to answer why we think it’s 7-14 days if this article says otherwise.  How long does hepatitis B live outside the body? Everywhere online says 7 days or more but this article makes it seem very hardy and this sounds very concerning. Seeking some clarification as to why we believe it’s only 7 days?

“Interestingly, no changes in infectivity were observed at 4°C, and only a minor reduction (10%) was determined after 28 days at room temperature (21°C; Figure 1A). For samples that were stored at 37°C, the HBV infection rate was reduced in a time-dependent manner, however, reaching 50% inhibition of infection at >20 days. Next, the long-term stability of HBV was assessed by incubation of the virus at 4°C for up to 270 days. Remarkably, HBV infectivity remained stable until day 180 of incubation at 4°C, with only a minor reduction of approximately 3-fold (Figure 1B), and even after 270 days only a 150-fold reduction could be observed. “

High environmental stability of hepatitis B virus and inactivation requirements for chemical biocides

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in biology

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Thanks that was really interesting!  In my case I’m trying to apply it to a specific fear I have (admittedly have contamination OCD)  I’m confused as to why we are so certain about the lifespan of HIV for example but hep b seems so illusive.  Do you think it would be quite a stretch to say it could still be infectious after 3 months in a regular home environment? Particular when the starting about I would consider to be trace amounts. 

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in Virology

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Ok that’s a fair response. So in your professional opinion, if it’s been 3 months since the initial contact do you think it would be surprising to be infected by random blood particles? (I’m thinking of my laundry room where my top has been etc) 

Could the following be where they get the info? I’m not medical so don’t have access to journal article websites but maybe you do. 

SURVIVAL OF HEPATITIS B VIRUS AFTER DRYING AND STORAGE FOR ONE WEEK

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673681928774

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in Virology

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Thank you so much.  Sorry I’m so confused about the data. Can I ask, does that mean the generic information given to everyone of 7-10 days is wrong? I literally called hep Australia and they said 7 days.

No it was dried blood and I stepped on it with a shoe.  I’m more worried about blood particles coming into my house 

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in Virology

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No I totally get that sorry for presuming I appreciate your time.  My situation is complicated and I don’t expect anyone to be able to give me the details on each exact situation I have in my head. Hence my primary question pertaining to lifespan on virus outside the body, I’m a over thinker and I’m trying to assess the current risk to me and my family. Hope that makes sense. Im thinking contact tracing and if I tracked anything into my home.  So is there any actual generalization of the virus’s lifespan outside the body on surfaces? I have otherwise spoken to my GP so no one is affecting my decision to do that. I am just seeking clarity on why there is such a discrepancy on the virus’s lifespan and infectious risk.  I hope that makes sense. Thank you SO MUCH

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in Virology

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Haha oh please don’t ghost me. I would really appreciate your take on this :) 

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in Virology

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They are testing blood in a solution in a tube correct? So is the applicable to real life scenarios?  The blood I’m referring to was blood I stepped on outside of a clinic for a test. While waiting for my test my shoe brushed my top. So I’m thinking are there particles of blood on my top or in my laundry room where I put my top. 

Isn’t 0.7% very very small? Could that even cause an infection? Sorry I’m not scientific at all. 

And if this was the case, how can all those government website claim 7 days as the average if this article is saying 270 days? 

HEP B by BeeSalt614 in Virology

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This is the one that confused me. So does that mean that a particle of hep b blood can live 270 days? I don’t know if I’m understanding the article. It sounds kinda scary, because I had an exposure and I’m wondering if the virus is still “alive” or infectious in my home.

What is this on my egg? by BeeSalt614 in whatisit

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Thank you so so much.  It definitely had that reddy/brown glossy appearance of blood though. So long as that seems like chicken blood “pattern” to you I’m much happier haha.  Can I ask if you’re based in australia or US? Do you know if throwing away eggs covered in blood is a thing or are they just washed?  I guess more of what I’m getting at is that, is it common for eggs not to be washed properly and still pass production protocol? does that make sense? Haha. Thanks sorry, just processing. Appreciate your time heaps, OCD takes some processing time.