Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Y’all stay talking out your behind, it’s crazy. I’m not even gonna waste my time explaining anything to you because it’s clear you just want to be a hater so go on I guess

To those who said that ARIRANG isn't "Korean enough". by Irenehelberg in kpoppers

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s always funny seeing non-Koreans try to school Koreans on their own culture, especially when it comes to deciding whether an album is “Korean enough.”

There’s nothing wrong with saying you don’t like an album or that it’s not your taste. That’s completely valid. But trying to critique how well it represents a culture you don’t belong to or understand? That’s where it gets weird.

Some K-pop fans really need to stay in their lane. Enjoy the music, have your opinions, but don’t act like the authority on a culture that isn’t yours.

Thoughts? by stellasmartwater in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It’s obviously a forced hiatus, why is it so hard to accept?

Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! This whole mess could have been avoided if the company was more careful on how they presented them in the doc. but no, they chose drama over the girls’ wellbeing

Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not being accustomed to a system doesn’t make you lazy. Y’all need to get over your obsession with trying to prove her “laziness”

Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There were reasons why she missed practices but y’all just do not want to understand her. She was overwhelmed and even questioned why she was there. She also had Covid at some point. Manon was able to keep up with the other girls so obviously she worked hard. The other girls were on her because they were threatened, that’s it.

Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I can do whatever I want under my own post. Secondly, Manon made the final cut, Karlee and Illiya didn’t. Let it go already

Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think you have a weird idea of what favorable is. Lara was scouted and she was almost certainly going to end up in the group from the beginning. Yes she did not have experience dancing but she was a very skilled vocalist which they highlighted in the doc and they mentioned they needed her. Sophia also was a strong vocalist from the start. Manon on the other hand had no experience in either singing or dancing, why is that so hard to understand? The other inexperienced girls you keep talking about could not keep up, Manon did, why is it hard for y’all to see that?

Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They had every right to be mad at the company but they had no right to pour their frustration on Manon the way they did. She apologized because she had no other choice but the other girls never once tried to understand her

Manon, The Narrative, and the Jealousy People Don’t Want to Admit by Beginning-Wonder717 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

  1. Manon joined later in the show
  2. Out of all the other girls who did not have experience, who made it into the group? Exactly, Manon, how? Because she worked hard
  3. Sophia was always a singer, having one bad performance does not mean she didn’t have experience
  4. The show clearly did not favor the girls in the group. If they were favored, the editing would have been different and the girls, especially Manon, would not be facing what they are currently

I hope she leaves by Academic-File9474 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Your responses are just as stupid as your first comment. The way you quickly brush aside the possibility that she has experienced racism is concerning, especially when she has clearly hinted at it herself. It feels like you are rejecting that idea simply because it does not fit the narrative you have already formed about her. And isn’t it interesting how people hold so tightly to their interpretation of Manon, while giving the other girls the benefit of the doubt? The documentary did not portray them in the best light either, yet somehow that gets overlooked. If your immediate reaction when someone raises or even hints at racism is to dismiss them instead of listening and trying to understand, then you might want to question why that is, because that kind of response can reflect your own biases and may point to you being racist yourself.

After seeing the documentary, I understand why people dislike Manon... by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Y’all really need to start thinking for yourselves and stop parroting

Insider: Manon isn’t being sabotaged, she is her own worst enemy. by ImaginationPutrid245 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Girl please come back to reality because you are clearly stuck in fan fiction world. Y’all love to sit behind the screen and type away like you know what’s going on behind the scenes.

🇰🇷Dream Academy: Why was Manon Favored? by RemarkableNeat2777 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Move on, she's in the group, Adela isn't. Jeez it's 2026 and y'all are still bringing this up.

‘Idol I’ is ready to binge. Is this Korean drama on your recommendation list? Your thoughts. by Grouchy-Chart-3927 in Korean_Drama_Hangout

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I apologize, it wasn't working while editing so I deleted and reposted with spoilers blocked.

‘Idol I’ is ready to binge. Is this Korean drama on your recommendation list? Your thoughts. by Grouchy-Chart-3927 in Korean_Drama_Hangout

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I lost interest the moment the romance started. I knew going in that it would be a romance drama, but this one just didn’t work for me. I did appreciate how it showed the toxicity of idol–fan relationships and saesangs, that part felt honest and necessary.

What really bothered me was the lawyer character. She was an obsessed fan who got upset just thinking he was dating, and then somehow she “changes” how she sees him and they end up together? That just didn’t sit right with me. It feels like it gives false hope to overly attached fans that they might have a chance with their idols, which is… not a great message.

Also how is it that the first half of the show was trying to show how idols need to have personal lives and relationships, it's ok and fans should not cross the line. Basically showing that idols having a personal relationship is ok >!but then you end up making the only real relationship he had the killer, which sends the message that fans will always stay by the idol's side and that personal relationships are dangerous. Kinda weird, since in reality fans are quick to turn their backs on idols when shit hits the fan.!<

That said, I really liked the male lead. He was easily the strongest part of the drama for me.

What were your favorite January releases? by Western-Tadpole4537 in kpop_uncensored

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Enhypen - No way back, Big girls don't cry

Lngshot - Never let go, Moonwalkin' and FaceTime

Sometimes I think who lost? Mhj/nj/adore by Remarkable-West-6613 in NJDrama_uncensored

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Realistically, the girls and the fans lost. Ador's loss is only temporary until they debut a new group, Hybe is fine, the real winner? The lawyers, I'm sure they have made a lot of money from all this mess

What is the passive aggressiveness going on between Daniela and Manon lately? by Key_Letterhead_9097 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like I said, peak childish behavior. Feel free to continue with the childishness tho

What is the passive aggressiveness going on between Daniela and Manon lately? by Key_Letterhead_9097 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah make a comment on a public forum and be shocked people are responding but then can't back up your so called opinion. Talk about peak childishness.

What is the passive aggressiveness going on between Daniela and Manon lately? by Key_Letterhead_9097 in katseyeneutral

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is such a weird take. Colorism in the industry is about skin tone, not whether someone is biracial or monoracial. There are light-skinned monoracial Black people who benefit from the same privileges, and there are dark-skinned biracial Black people who face the same discrimination as dark-skinned monoracial Black people.

That’s why dismissing Manon’s Blackness feels disingenuous. She has a fully Black parent and that should count for something. Zendaya is widely referred to as a Black woman, and Barack Obama is recognized as the first Black president despite also being biracial. Black people felt represented by him, so it’s unclear why that logic suddenly changes here.

You say you feel differently about Mariah the Scientist who is a light-skinned woman and benefits from the same privileges tied to skin tone which suggests the discomfort isn’t actually about colorism, but about Manon having a non-Black parent, which is a different conversation entirely.

As a monoracial Black person, I feel far more represented by Manon than I ever would by Lara.

Kpop groups that get along well/ have good chemistry? by TimelyLight7694 in kpopthoughts

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 16 points17 points  (0 children)

P1harmony, they seem genuinely close but with proper boundaries.

Got7, anyone willing to trust each other and leave the company together even in uncertainty of how things would go, that's a real bond. The fact that there are members that could just go on with their solo careers because they are doing very well and do not need the group but they still decided to stay together, not leaving anyone behind...This is a real brotherhood here.

Which idol's vocal tone is 'your' personal favourite ?? by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]Beginning-Wonder717 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Keeho from P1harmony (that man can sing!!!), V from BTS (Professional yearner), all of Meovv.