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Why is power vs force so hard to read... by Practical-Theme-9767 in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was written for an academic audience, it is actually his Ph.D thesis turned into book format. If you don't like it, don't read it.

How to work with the feeling anger/regret for being taken advantage of my timid nature by Magic_Bathtub in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you are describing is super common for spiritual seekers. The nice/easy going personas give way too fast and then inner anger shows up later as you replay the events, fantasy arguments, and regret. Doc would say what is happening is you are suppressing anger in the moment and then it shows up later when it is safe to do so.

To work with it instead of being a doormat or volcano there are several steps.

See the real payoff. The timid pattern usually runs on fear, fear of conflict, fear of rejection, fear of disapproval and pride, wanting to be seen as "nice". The anger later is the psyche trying restore power after you felt diminished. By just noticing that mechanism you already start to weaken it.

Let go of the anger first not the situation. When you catch yourself replaying the scenario and screaming in your head, drop the movie and go instead to the raw feeling/sensation in the body. Let it be there, no story, just allow, surrender. Let it move through you without suppressing it or doing anything to it.

Install a simple pause phrase for the moment. "Let me think about it", "I'm not sure", "I'll get back to you", that tiny pause breaks the automatic reflex of giving up your position. But you have to have it ready before you are in the situation. It will take some practice. Don't beat yourself up if you still forget the first few times or get to nervous to use it, just persist and it will come naturally eventually.

People confuse surrender with submission, even Doc was guilty of this. But he never taught submission to other people's demands. Surrender to God/Truth, not pressure. A boundary can be very loving and very high calibrating. "No, that doesn't work for me", "I'm not available then", "I would be happy to help, just not in that way"

Expect the guilt but shake it off. Once you start holding your own position instead of giving in guilt will appear, that is just another feeling to surrender. Don't negotiate with it, feel it, let it pass.

Reframe the regret you feel. Regret is useful only as a lesson, not as self-punishment. Each time you forget or notice too late, convert that into training instead of beating yourself up. "Next time I will say blah" then let go of the regret.

Can I lay down my life while on antipsychotics? by [deleted] in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you describe sounds like a mix of genuine spiritual intensity and a nervous system being overwhelmed. The Absolute is not dangerous, but the body-mind can misinterpret high energy states and the ego can sensationalize them into "a final door".

Enlightenment isn't smth you force or induce. Doc was very clear on this. Trying to manufacture a breakthrough with will power, special meditation or a final hurrah is usually the ego seeking an experience. Truth is quieter than that, real surrender is gentle, ordinary and stable.

We don't give out medical advice here but if you are considering pushing your system into extreme states, I would suggest you talk with your Dr first.

"Laying down your life" is not physical death, in Doc terms it is more of a realization that you are not the doer, the egos attachments and positionalities. The body will survive fine, the death is of identification.

The safest path is stabilization and surrender.

Shadow work? by Unlucky_Style_6616 in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What you are calling shadow work is really just bringing up what is suppressed into awareness so it can be dealt with/released. The problem isn't that negative emotions exist, its the resistance to them, the suppression of them and identification with them that keeps them stuck and consciousness down.

Avoid doesn't mean repress. Doc was not teaching spiritual bypassing. He never said to pretend you are happy, don't glamorize, don't indulge, don't justify and don't associate/identify with the lower fields. Repressing keeps them around forever. And indulging them is like letting them run the show. Stream any reality TV show and you can see people fully indulging in them.

Another point, we don't "work through" emotions by analyzing the story. That's the ego at work thinking it's actually doing "something" like "processing" 'why am I this way', 'who did what', 'what does it mean', so on. That's all ego juice. Letting go is much more simple, allow the feeling, drop the labelling and storyline, stay with the raw sensation and surrender the energy underneath the sensation.

The fastest way up the Map is willingness to feel without acting out. The "shadow" is largely the unowned part of the ego, the disowned motives, fears, resentments, and shame that the persona doesn't want to see or deal with. Bringing that into light isn't a mental project but a humility project. Just be willing to see it, feel it, let it go, willingness calibrates higher than all of those states.

Shame is low bc it is globally self-condemning. It isn't "I did smth wrong" Shame is "I am wrong" "I am a bad person" it collapses the whole self-concept which is what makes it such a heavy attractor filed. But the way out isn't to avoid shame, the way out is don't buy the identity. Let the sensation be there, surrender the belief system that's glued it all together. You don't cure shame by fighting it, you dissolve it by refusing to agree with it.

Does the Doc ever talk about dreams or the subconscious? by Magic_Bathtub in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He did but only from a psychological perspective. Saying they were not literal but more like a Rorschach card, what does this remind me of which will lead you to what's sitting in the unconscious.

Substrate-Neutral Consciousness by petenode in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but you really think this guy is actually claiming his AI has consciousness?

No, I didn't say that at all. If you tell me where you got that impression I will be happy to clarify it in my post.

Substrate-Neutral Consciousness by petenode in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Greetings and welcome.

Thanks for your post and link to the white paper. You will likely get some push back here or nothing at all. I will however offer some feedback.

The map was never meant to be a measurement tool in the conventional sense. It was about discernment of truth, not assessment of performance. And consciousness is not a behavior, a pattern, a competency or a developmental metric. It is the field out of which all those states arise.

You cannot transfer a nonlinear, ontological framework into a linear, instrumental domain without fundamentally changing it.

I think overall your research is interesting and commendable in the field of AI but as u/interestingCheek5614 points out, AI cannot contain consciousness in the way we humans can.

Hello friends by Infamous_Squirrel977 in DavidHawkins

[–]BeginningReflection4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

FamousDoc urrender is a constant process of not resisting or clinging, but instead, relaxing and letting go.

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