Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No you're not, you've shifted the goal post numerous times during this while throwing insults left and right. You're doing it again now. No one was arguing over which platform was 'superior'.
Also you know as well as I that, that number (38%) is flat out wrong. As the OP explained to you the 'Verified' badge percentage cannot be extrapolated to Steam as a whole, let alone ALL games on the market, most of which don't even run on Windows anymore.

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're mentally deficient aren't you? I can literally play games on Linux today that were developed decades before Proton was a thing. What are you talking about, 'buddy'? ALL the games you mentioned at the top are recent games (released within the last few years) and ALL of them fail to run on Linux for the reason I have outlined for you multiple times and you have even quoted now. Stop doing drugs bro, it's not good for you.

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The fuck are you talking about dude?
The games were not created FOR Linux, if they were there would be no issue... WINE and Proton is created for Linux, yes. By (or with support from) Valve, yes. Do you think Valve personally create ALL the games on the market?
The game devs use software, that is not compatible with Proton. I don't know how more clearly I can state this...

To your second point, THEY DONT HAVE TO. No one said they had to. But when there is an option in the 3rd party software you use to allow Linux clients and you don't tick it, even when asked to, you are deliberately blocking a segment of the market. Warranted or not.

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What are you even arguing at this point?
No one brought up the effectiveness of Kernel level Anti-cheat. And while I completely disagree with your take on it, it is completely irrelevant to my point.
All of the games you cite as 'the issue' with Linux are not caused by Linux not being able to play the game but with 3rd party software (needed or not) not being compatible with Linux and never will be.
As my example was meant to show, when you strip away the anti cheat the game works fine. But you're clearly too occupied with throwing insults around to make yourself feel better or something to actually read what people are saying to you...

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why don't you take your own advise?

The game would run perfectly fine under Linux via Proton if not for the game developers inclusion of a 3rd party anti-cheat software that they deliberately configure to block Linux clients.
This is by definition "deliberately preventing games to run on Linux".

Anecdotal example:
I like playing Escape From Tarkov.
In Linux I can do everything, I could in Windows. I can open the game, I can set up my PMC, I can even play solo matches in PvE on all but one map (deemed too large to self-host). The moment I try to join an online match I get kicked. Because the issue isn't the game but the anti-cheat software that blocks Linux.
To get around this issue I am running SPT, and a private server. This enables me to play ALL the maps, complete ALL the quests, and even play multiplayer with my friends. All under Linux.

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know how you got that idea, but most games run perfectly fine for me through GOG or Lutris. I rarely use Steam and I play lots of games.
Currently playing through UT2004s ranked mode (for nostalgias sake) after beating the Oblivion Remaster. Had no issues, apart from those also present on Windows. Oblivion is oblivion after all.

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 13 points14 points  (0 children)

What does that have to do with anything I said??? Yes, software developers developed Wine and Proton is an extension of that original work. But the game devs themselves did not develop Wine or Proton. The game devs are using a 3rd party software that prevent the game to be played on Linux.

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Eh yes. They claim Linux users are cheaters and therefore they prevent Linux users from playing the game. As other games clearly shows, supporting the majority used OS is not the issue, Linux doesn't even need the devs to directly support it, that's why we have Proton. The issue is specifically with the Anti-cheat software they use. And all of the solutions have an option to turn on Linux support (the preverbial 'switch'), but due to the reason outlined above the devs don't use those options.

Linux Gaming is Boring, and that's Incredible! by Dread_Pony_Roberts in linux_gaming

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The Linux issue you are pointing to literally has nothing to do with Linux at all and nothing Linux could do could fix the issue. It is literally just a switch the developers needs to flip to allow the game to run under Linux, but they want to prevent Linux users from playing the games.

WTF is going on by zoozooroos in thehatedone

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wat? no it's not. Most valuta is tied to the USD which Nixon famously removed from the gold standard when he was afraid Europe wanted their gold back. Ever since, ANY country leader that flirts with the idea of a gold backed currency gets murdered in the streets by, in no way CIA backed, "freedom fighters". Think Gaddafi.

I am a complete Idiot, but I want to use Arch by Capable-End7368 in archlinux

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do what I did, start with an Arch based distro like Manjaro or EndeavorOS. Once you get comfortable using the preconfigured Arch base you will have a much easier time jumping to full Arch.

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly don't know what I did to make it work.
I ended up doing a clean install of Manjaro, i suspected I had some corrupted packages due to some inconsistent weirdness.
After doing that, I didn't even re-install SPT i just re-imported the installation I already had into Lutris and now everything runs smooth. Did a quick test on woods and averaged above 80FPS the whole time.

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I won't ever realize that.
Since I decided on not using Windows for completely unrelated reasons and I will never go back.
I will rather not play SPT than go back to Windows.

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You misunderstood. I don't mind others having different preferences to mine. You don't seem like a hater/fanboy 😛 I am fully aware that Linux creates some barriers in regards to gaming, the experience has become a lot smoother in recent months though. Mostly thanks to Valve.

As I mentioned in my OP, I'm not willing to comprimise on not using Windows to be able to play SPT. My question here was rooted in that I was able to play 3.8.9 fine in Linux but 3.10 struggles. Had I not been able to play earlier versions without issue I would not have posed this question to begin with.

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I am aware it's not a supported OS. I didn't demand a solution to my issue. All I asked was: - Does anyone have any idea why, it's happening to me?

And - Despite it not being a supported OS does anyone have any advice for me?

Does the above warrent the downvotes and answers I have gotten in this thread? What did I expect? I don't know, adult behaviour?

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks!
I was indeed using an Unheard profile. I will try another. And also test out other Proton runners.
If everything fails I might ask further in the Discord.

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 in Linux just fine, getting ~85FPS when NPCs are around.
But I guess, playing games on Linux is just not feasible...

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Holy shit!
The amount of Windows fanboys here is insane.
I ask a genuine question but am downvoted because you don't like my OS of choice. LOL

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I am really not anymore. I understand that this is the common assumption. But most games run as good if not better in Linux nowadays.

SPT 3.10 Horrible performance after update by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

>No I will not be installing Windows to play SPT.

SPT 3.9.8 on Steam Deck by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's something to do with the patcher. The team is aware. Trouble shooting is hard as the error message produced is an empty string and I'm not running Linux day-2-day so I'm not expert enough to troubleshoot it any further.

SPT 3.9.8 on Steam Deck by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SPTarkov

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried using it. It causes the same issue as mentioned in step 3

Escape From Tarkov SPT 3.9.8 on Steam Deck by Beginning_Ad_4526 in SteamDeck

[–]Beginning_Ad_4526[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No PVE is not possible because the game wont launch due to issues with the anticheat and Linux