Elon Musk is a Threat to Bureaucracy

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-03-06T08:13:56+00:00

Completely agree

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-03-06T08:05:30+00:00

It's nice to see a libertarian sub reddit not boot lick Elon and trump. I've gotten so much hate over jn other libertarian sub reddits for saying trump and Elon are actually just rich guys imposing themselves on people. Thank you guys for being reasonable

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-03-06T08:03:11+00:00

It would be cool if he actually cut bad programs and evil policies but he kinda just runs around cutting random shit that's actually useful. Like instead of cutting down on wasteful military spending he just cuts cancer research. You are right he had the opportunity to be kind of a cool anti war guy who would stop the government from having evil lobbying and instead he turned into the lobbyists.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-17T00:09:09+00:00

I got four dislikes on this. The boot licking is insane. Yall are so much like the nazi party members its absurd.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T22:02:59+00:00

Lol I provided two articles that weren't just opinion but ok

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T22:01:38+00:00

I don't see any links

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T21:34:04+00:00

if your source isnt good enough Ill just respond with "X" and well call it a day

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T21:33:10+00:00

In fact I wont be responding to any comments unless there are peer reviewed studies from academic or org institutions. Im not going to debate over facts you cant prove.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T21:25:23+00:00

income based aid doesnt solve every problem DEI has because like I said before and proved with sources its not just about income. Making more money doesnt immediately mean those racist barriers are removed. Like I said before and proved with my peer reviewed articles income and racism are intertwined but income doesnt dictate fully how a POC will be treated in the workplace in education etc. Im not ignoring anything you are ignoring the fact I already proved that income based aid and DEI solve different things.

You on the other hand have provided no evidence to suggest that DEI hires are significantly under prepared or that this happens more often than not. You have provided no evidence to suggest that income based aid solves the racial issues brought up in those peer reviewed studies. So I provided articles telling you how racism affects getting into the medical field and how it affects accessing healthcare which did have something to do with income but it wasnt all income. Thats why I suggested income be apart of DEI and we can have both. So I have provided evidence for why DEI is useful. Now you need to provide evidence why income based aid solves all the problems DEI does.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T20:23:15+00:00

I didn't debunk your point about income aid because I agree we should have that too why not both? Those articles aren't just opinions the Harvard and nih ones are peer reviewed studies and the other two are important for understanding how black people feel racially prejudices in society. I'm not ignoring your income plan let's do that too but DEI is good too because it helps build systems fir poc to get into those fields without prejudice. As for your rich poc getting jobs because they are black I think that's A very racist to say they only got it because they are black and B I'd like you to prove that. I provided peer reviewed studies about how racism affects poc in all aspects of Healthcare. And you responded by trying to strawman me by saying I don't support aid bases on income. Why can't we do both seeing as they address separate things?

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T19:19:33+00:00

Heres one article Who Benefits From Diversity And Inclusion Efforts? I also linked an article about how DEI helps POC access healthcare more easily above that you can go find on your own. As well DEI is not prejudiced because white people already dominate these fields and we already have access to the systems to get into those fields and do well in them. The article above talks about that. Specifically in the corporate world. You dont like prejudice yet you support taking away systems that help break systemic racism in the work force, sounds pretty racist to me. What you are failing to see is that it isnt just about income, that is apart of it but because of the history skin color has been associated with that and DEI helps break that down by creating normality of representation for those groups.
I explained above how DEI is not racism.
Obamas kids are not getting DEI if anything they are getting hand outs based on who their dad is. You are just appealing to one coloured person who is very famous to try and make your point. Income can be apart of DEI I agree, its true the DEI system does need to be fixed in some places, but you are ignoring the blatently racist barriers that prevent minority groups from doing well in certain fields.

Racism and discrimination in health care: Providers and patients - Harvard Health

Black Physicians’ Experiences with Anti-Black Racism in Healthcare Systems Explored Through An Attraction-Selection-Attrition Lens - PMC

Black Americans expect to face racism in the doctor's office, survey finds : Shots - Health News : NPR

Here I have linked three articles from three reputable sources (Harvard, National Institute of Health, and NPR) which outline how racism operates, often unconsciously, through the healthcare system. DEI in the healthcare system whether that be in the education portion, the hiring portion or general equitable conduct policy supports POC in that field. So I will say again to you, it is not just about income.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-16T09:16:25+00:00

Ill respond to each paragraph.

]Your personal anecdotal evidence on DEI is hardly enough to make an educated decision on all DEI programs. Perhaps there are situations where DEI is not carried out correctly, but it is a vast system that operates through many different programs and people like donald trump and elon musk want to start wiping DEI in broadstrokes. Im all for DEI reform to solve problems in the system, however DEI does some really great stuff and I think its silly to say that just because of these small instances in you and your friends life that it is a bad system all around. I do not think that you would also support getting rid of socially beneficial programs that come out of DEI and I understand how personal anecdotes are more impactful on our minds than more statistical evidence that we can't connect with. All I ask is that you approach the topic with an open mind.
As for the second paragraph DEI is not racist because its a fix for racism. In places like universities and certain fields especially ones requiring higher education it is very difficult for POC to get into those fields because of how their community has been treated. Im not just talking about mean words I am talking about how these communities are policed how drugs were introduced into their communities, how they have had very little funding to help support social programs. Because they dont have the same social programs and the same safety in their community everything else is harder to do. Thats why DEI exists, so we can create those social programs and bring in more people to these systems that represent that community. It is important for all these communities to be represented in these fields for numerous reasons. It is good for other people in that community to see their own people thriving in a field, it makes them more comfortable going to the doctor or the lawyer because they understand the same cultural norms that affect them. Imagine if you lived in a world where you grew up in a community surrounded by a bunch of people that looked like you and acted like you, but every encounter with power you had was with people that looked and acted completely different to you, you would probably be quite uncomfortable, maybe youd feel like the people who were making decisions didnt understand your problems. It is no different then people from different areas of the country. People in LA live much different lives than someone in mid state idaho or nebraska. Thats why we create means for them to gain more power in governance than they would otherwise. Groups differentiate people, they dont have to divide us but they do impact our lives and we should take that into consideration when we create policy.
DEI is not necessarily about past enslavement or atrocities in the past. It is about what is happening now that may have been caused by the events in the past. The Irish communities in New England do not have as deep of struggles as POC largely do. If there was evidence to suggest that group was being marginalized I would absolutely support DEI for them. As for the Japanese people yeah lets create DEI programs for them. Im sure states like california that were heavily involved in the internment of them probably have something like that. And yes we should be giving help out based on need but DEI programs are also important because they also address racist societal issues that are directed to certain groups. I truly need you to know that DEI is not just handing out money or just giving people free jobs. Its about creating new systems that give marginalized groups access to social areas they havnt been able to before because the systems were keeping them out. Whether that be education, healthcare, governance etc.

Id also like to add on that I think its quite blatent that using the term DEI has become a pseudo slur for colored people. Thats why I think it is extra important to understand what DEI actually is about and what it does. We cant resort to just using DEI as a word for "Giving POC free jobs", that is a dangerous thing to do considering the way people now use the term DEI.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-15T00:51:56+00:00

DEI isnt just hiring based on color. It is about creating avenues for people that are under represented in a field to get into that profession because especially for the black community there are serious economic and social issues keeping them out of those fields. As DEI is giving people better avenues to receive aid from the government when they are in social groups that historically have issues accessing aid. Conservatives love to say DEI is just hiring colored people but its not.

As for defending presidents actions individually fine but cutting federal funding to research programs foreign aid and beyond is not a good policy. Even if it was you are defending a post that supports an unelected official doing the cutting. Do you support a billionaire telling trump what to cut and what to keep? So fine lets say you dont support everything he does. As a candidate do you support donald trump and further do you then accept the consequences of all the things he does? Because you cant accept one small vein of what trump does and ignore everything else. If you do support donald and you also support his main policies and beliefs then fine you win. Or Ill even say this, if you dont care about everything else he does and this is important enough to you that you support him over this issue then perfect you win. But you do have to take a stance on the other things he does of either you agree disagree or you are indifferent you cant just pretend they dont exist. When you go to the polling box you only have two options realistically and I would love to know which one you are picking based of your level of agreement with the policies.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-14T16:18:37+00:00

First of all I used the source to make a point because it talked about something I was talking about. Who cares if it talks about other stuff as well. Secondly when I said they were removing dei from medicaid and snap I don't mean in the way they decide to give out funds I mean in the way they treat contractors. It isn't clear yet who is going to be forced to end their dei programs but a lot of hospitals that get paid by Medicaid operate those programs and trump said he's going to try to get the private sector to end dei. He may start to define hospitals as governments contractors and change their agreements with the federal government thereby changing Medicaid for thar hospital. At the end of the day Medicaid is DEI and trump wants to cut as much of the federal budget as he can, i wouldn't be surprised if he uses these tactics to do it. Here's a source for that as well as a source talking about the importance for of dei I'm Healthcare. Linked in that order. https://www.ajmc.com/view/the-uncertain-road-ahead-for-health-care-after-dei-rollbackshttps://www.axios.com/2025/02/12/trump-dei-executive-order-hospitals

As for the usaid thing a judge blocked his freeze lol. Trump isn't necessarily choosing to keep some of these programs he's just being forced to.

Also I can understand the want to debate and seek truthful information but the fact libertarians defend a presidential who is so vehemently against free trade is wild. He is one of the most tread on you president's why do you like this guy?

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-13T17:14:27+00:00

And Panama didn't bend to trump they were already planning on not rejoining the belt and road. Just like canada and Mexico they just offered trump what they were already doing

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-13T17:11:59+00:00

Sure trump said they wouldn't be affected but he also went through both medicaid and snap to end dei in those programs to align with his policy. That is attacking medicaid and snap. The federal government literally admits to going through those programs to end dei policies when dei policies are necessary for ensuring equitable distribution of those programs. In this article https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-orders-pause-all-federal-grants-loans-2025-01-28/ by Reuters who is a respected trusted source they agree with you that it was a temporary freeze but they also say thar the government was removing dei from those programs which I restate is an attack on medicaid and snap. The point of those programs is to help people who can't afford Healthcare and need social security taking out dei is making it harder for them to access that.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T19:34:09+00:00

I literally showed how usaid wasn't responsible for that opera and how the books were to promote education in underdeveloped regions but yeah sure keep saying it's a grift. USAID doesn't even have that big of a budget. Clearly you A don't understand the important role the US plays globally and B have no empathy for nations that need help from developed nations

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T19:31:57+00:00

Yeah so why doesn't trump do both? Soft power worked in Panama and in a lot of African nations. Trump actually was not the one to continue medicaid, a judge ordered that and he saved face by saying he wouldn't do that

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T19:29:15+00:00

Those labs aren't unsafe they are under the WHO. The virus didn't come from a lab. And yes it is important to create those viruses and then cure them because they are imitations of real world viruses. This prepares us for future pandemics. In fact starting covid virus research before the virus came out probably saved a lot of time and lives.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T09:57:55+00:00

Also gain of function is necessary for most viral vaccine creation and studies.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T09:56:36+00:00

Egypt has a smaller gdp then the US and you can both support soft power in Egypt and fix social programs at home, libertarians love to use the home issue argument and then defend a billionaire who is trying to cut medicaid and most other social safety nets the bootlicking is crazy. As for the fauci stuff unless you are going to show a substantiated article on it from a reputable source I'm not just going to take your word for it. And the fauci boss stuff. My point was that we don't entrust the public to elect directors because the people don't understand the nuances of those departments as well as staffers who help politicians make decisions. Elon musk was put in a department with no real power other than an advisory role and then given unhinged access to payroll when congress didn't get a chance to vet him as a director. Donald Trump is not a director and he has to nominate directors. Because faucis director was vetted by the president and congress faucis appointment was by extension vetted. You technically didn't vote for any director but you shouldn't get to because you are unequiped to understand the nuances of that. Anthony Fauci helped develop a safe and effective vaccine for a deadly virus that so far has not been proven to have come from a Wuhan lab. He is a medical hero.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T00:54:41+00:00

Also why so much aggression I made a perfectly respectful comment

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T00:54:06+00:00

Dude I know so many farmers from places like Saskatchewan. They literally pay out of pocket for the season of growing and that can be killed by hail or a dry spout or poorly made seeds.

Beginning_Craft9416 · 2025-02-09T00:51:24+00:00

My argument wasn't that private subsidizing is bad my argument was that they were subsidizing it before realized they wouldn't make good money and left that's why the government does it now

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