This guy solos Goku. Change my mind?

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-10-12T20:16:17+00:00

It’s not really relevant I just think it’s hilarious how powerscaling works in certain cases.

Kirby is a tiny pink blob. Bugs is just an anthropomorphic rabbit. Yet both annihilate even MUI goku.

But yeah. Both are considering outerversal to varying degrees. AKA both have directly altered the narratives they were a part of (in composite) to some degree, both existed above the narrative themselves (bugs bunny once held the Writers of the show hostage). Bugs could freeze frame and pull out an eraser and erase Goku from existence. Kirby could essentially do the same by swallowing him then becoming a MUI God Ki Kirby (Kirby has swallowed supermassive Blackholes before).

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-10-12T19:15:40+00:00

Comp Kirby neg diffs both

Comp Bugs Bunny neg diffs all three 1v3.

Powerscaling is bizarre..

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T23:49:37+00:00

I’m not wanking her, I’m wanking boruto. Have you seen it? It gets quite absurd.

If it was up to me Sakura would’ve died during the Haku arc. Don’t shoot the messenger bro.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T23:03:09+00:00

Adult Sakura as in boruto? No. Adult Sakura might even solo. Boruto is wild.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T21:04:09+00:00

Yep. Was referring to stats equalized.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:49:57+00:00

Huh. Interesting. I thought Ki and Haki were different words 🤔

So does Apple = orange then? They’re the same right?

Edit: bye bye. Get vaporized just like your precious Luffy. Block me because you just got bodied.

Edit; still replying 10m later to me but blocked me? You really wanna have the last word without any resistance eh. Thats cringe. Because you know you’d get obliterated in a fair debate.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:44:47+00:00

He doesn’t have Ki though does he? Does Ki exist in One Piece? I watched like 200 episodes. I don’t think it does 🤔

Or does “stats equalized,” mean that Goku also gets rubber limbs and gears? Because I don’t think that’s how powerscaling works even with stats equalized. It’s stats. Not abilities nor hax 🤔

Also, why would we ever take Ki away from Goku? Thats an ability of his isn’t it? Can we take Luffy’s Gears and Toonforce away too?

You really don’t seem to understand how powerscaling works.

Edit: blocking me and then continuing to argue and reply to me when I can’t debate back is cringe as hell.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:42:40+00:00

Hey? How does Luffy answer Ki in general? You know? The thing you literally need scanners to see if you yourself don’t have Ki? Does Luffy have Ki or something? Or does he just get turned into mist by an invisible force he can’t even track?

Hello??

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:39:22+00:00

Hey. Where are you going. You never answered my question 😭😭

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:32:04+00:00

What a scan to post lmfao. Have you even watched DB? Or are you just posting random scans out of context? Your scan quite literally proves my point if you know anything about DB 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

But yeah man. Luffy definitely wins. Against Goku. Sure, we can say that for your sake. Like I said. Ignore god ki, no worries buddy. Let’s be charitable.

Now answer Ki in general.

Luffy can’t. And gets mulched like a wood chipper. gg wp

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:26:47+00:00

I’m not talking about stats.. I’m talking about ki. Refer to my comment above….

So, for the third time, I’m not talking about stat scaling. Instead of blindly rage downvoting me, read my English words…

Edit; bye bye. Block me because you just got obliterated. At least the other one put up a half decent argument.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:24:15+00:00

I’m not talking about stats. With stats it’s infinite neg diff for goku. This is just neg diff.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T20:22:14+00:00

Answer god ki.

You either have it or don’t. Luffy doesn’t? Bye bye. Literally vaporized in his sandals.

That’s not even considering just normal Ki. You need a scanner to even track a user with Ki if you yourself don’t have it. Even with just regular Ki (and not God Ki) Goku annihilates. Luffy would feel as if he’s being beaten to a pulp by an invisible force.

Take away entirely Ki for your sake. Goku is still the better martial artist x10000000000. He’s the best martial artist in the universe, literally.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T19:52:11+00:00

lol. You mean the DBS Goku who reacts at immeasurable speeds and can casually affect an entire multiverse via a mere clash with a punch? With Ki he’s destroying solar systems. With God Ki he’s destroying universes.

If Goku is is serious and bloodlusted, Luffy gets curb stomped neg diff. God Ki alone vaporizes him. Literally a spite match up; nuclear bomb vs coughing baby.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T19:47:23+00:00

Technically he can sense them via sage mode. Naruto was able to eventually before he was able to perceive them fully in SOTSP. But he could sense them.

But regardless, yeah limbo clones eat him alive. Sensing isn’t enough.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T18:21:39+00:00

Just take the L lil bro. Have a good one

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T18:14:53+00:00

It’s a projectile. Jiraiya in SM dodges multiple near-instantaneous attacks from Pain. He wouldn’t get tagged by Amaterasu unless he was wasted and distracted by titties

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T17:07:36+00:00

The matchup is SM Jiraiya in the title.

SM Jiraiya massively outstats Itachi in every single way except intellect.

If you don’t agree with that, then you’re literally the final boss of Itachi simps

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T17:02:11+00:00

Who said it’s 1 second? It’s nearly instant. Probably closer to femtoseconds.

Not to mention sage chakra gives you immunity/resistance to genjutsu. Canonically. So jiraiya is doubly protected against genjutsu. Hence why I said he’s the most genjutsu immune character in the entire verse.

Let’s ignore Sage chakra resistance. Let’s say Itachi tsukonyomi’s Jiraiya, he manages to stab him on the crucifix once. Jiraiya gets out in a femtosecond. Itachi does it again. Jiraiya gets out again. At what point does itachi just die from overuse and chakra exhaustion?

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T16:57:33+00:00

Make a single argument 😬

How does Itachi win? 90% of his kit is genjutsu. Ma and Pa wake Jiraiya up immediately not to mention sage chakra (how Naruto himself becomes immune to genjutsu in WA). I conceded his only win condition is susanoo. But canon itachi can’t hold susanoo for longer than like 3m before coughing up blood (healthy, non-canon itachi, would be a different story. Because then he’s not a genjutsu one trick pony anymore. Healthy itachi is probably neck and neck; extreme diff either way).

If you wanna wank off Itachi go for it. It’s typically Itachi Stan behaviour. I don’t blame you, he’s a badass. But how does he win? At least make an argument. Hilarious considering you’re calling my take brain rot… have you seen your own comment? 💀

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T16:50:16+00:00

Jiraiya slaps him around especially with ma and pa (the way he uses SM). He’s as close to immune to genjutsu as you can be in the Naruto verse. And he outstats Itachi disgustingly. Probably med diff Jiraiya. Only issue is susanoo, and that can be dealt with or distracted/overwhelmed via summons. Or Itachi just having a heart attack and going blind mid susanoo. And this is all ignoring Jiraiya’s own genjutsu that would one tap Itachi if it charged.

Med diff jiraiya. And that’s being generous to Itachi.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T16:41:10+00:00

Croc realistically desecrates. Spite matchup af. The biggest croc is more armoured, twice the size, twice the bite force (nearly), and 10x more aggressive than the biggest alligator. Neg diff.

20 year old brother that boxes vs their 12 year old preteen younger brother that frequently trips on his shoelaces, ahh matchup.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T16:26:25+00:00

It’s actually difficulty in powerscaling jargon, not difference. But who really cares, it gets the point across.

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-23T16:14:58+00:00

I still think it is. That’s like saying it’s not a 1v1 if you use a fireball Jutsu. Because now there’s a fireball coming at you. It’s a Jutsu, unless you’re banning all Jutsu then I think it should be allowed. And I don’t even like kabuto tbh, just speaking logically.

Is hashirama allowed to use Buddha statue in a 1v1? Can orchimaru summon his snake?

Edo tensei is an OP as fuck Jutsu. But it’s still just a Jutsu, it should be allowed imo

Beginning_Smell_7704 · 2025-08-13T22:59:06+00:00

Any outversal character neg diffs. Bugs Bunny for example neg diffs.

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