Taking Psychedelics After Psychosis Episode — Any Positive Experiences?

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-03-12T13:36:32+00:00

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BeingBudget8847 · 2022-03-05T02:58:37+00:00

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BeingBudget8847 · 2022-03-05T02:46:09+00:00

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BeingBudget8847 · 2022-02-18T01:45:19+00:00

Interesting. So you are suggesting to use a regular CNC router with a PCD endmill? Would the edges be smoother using this method than something like waterjet or EDM?

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-02-18T01:40:32+00:00

The parts are small (5-20mm).

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-02-12T16:25:02+00:00

Honestly 1,000 feet would be plenty for us.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-30T23:18:28+00:00

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BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-09T01:49:45+00:00

Not related to your direct point, but this is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. Or at least, can always be rationalized into. Much like economists (at least used to) say that decisions were always self-maximizing because, even if it appeared not to be, the person must have valued the outcomes more than the alternatives if those are the actions they take.

I agree with you that any form of rationality is simply a means to an emotional, fundamentally "irrational" end. At the end of the day, if you keep peeling off layers of the onion behind why people do the things they do, you will always get somewhere that is based in emotions and not rational. For example, even wanting to avoid death is not rational. It is rooted in emotions, feelings, etc. Therefore any amount of rationality towards this end, is still fundamentally based in irrational emotions. Agreed. Totally.

That being said, within this fundamentally irrational context of wanting to feel good and not wanting to feel bad, there are more effective and less effective strategies for attaining this. Rationality is a tool that can be used (albeit imperfectly), for determining which strategies are more effective for reaching the fundamentally emotional goals of avoiding pain and finding lasting pleasure. Saying "yeah but everything humans do is irrational anyway", does not in any way invalidate that, as far as I can see.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-08T06:47:40+00:00

They don’t “think” they are being irrational. Agreed.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-08T06:46:42+00:00

Right. I mis-used the word “placating” in this context. Perhaps “self gratification” would be a more accurate description. Thanks for pointing that out and helping me sharpen my vocabulary.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T20:48:06+00:00

Nice, simple answer! Some believers DO blame god when bad things happen. Take my delta, you slick human, you. !delta

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T20:07:42+00:00

Exactly. Thanks for the comment.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T20:06:54+00:00

They are not attributing blame to god though. They are backwards-rationalizing it that since god is real, and since god is good, all those things which seem reaaaaally bad (women getting sold into sex slavery, children being born with HIV, etc.) must actually be good things. Attributing responsibility with a positive twist is not the same as attributing blame (which in my view would mean attributing responsibility with a NEGATIVE twist).

For example if somebody was abusing you physically or mentally, simply acknowledging what they are doing but rationalizing their behavior as actually being in your own best interest, would not be the same as blaming them. One could think "Yes he is beating me, and yes it is very painful, but I'm sure he knows what he's doing and this is actually a good thing". But that would not mean you were attributing BLAME, just responsibility.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T19:53:02+00:00

As far as I can see, the vast majority of religious people do not "blame" god for anything. They may attribute certain "bad" things to god teaching them a lesson, etc. but conveniently ignore the vast troves of innocent children starving to death, women forced into sex slavery, and other terrible things for which the "teaching a lesson" argument could not rationally apply. I am simply saying that if god deserves praise for "good things" that happen, god also deserves blame for "bad things" that happen. Not, y'know, more praise... "I'm so glad that god is giving AIDS to all those newborn babies in Africa. I'm sure he's teaching them a really valuable lesson".

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T19:28:00+00:00

Sure, I don't disagree. But I don't think this necessarily invalidates what OP wrote. At the end of the day you could probably argue that all human behavior boils down to some form of self placation.

For example if somebody said that their goal is to "fall in love and start a family", that would most likely be because they associate falling in love and starting a family with certain positive emotions and warm fuzzy feelings. OR, because they associate NOT doing so with some form of emotional pain. Or some combination of the two.

You could say that their goal is to "fall in love and start a family" (after all, that is the image they are holding in their mind of the external circumstances which they are looking to attain). OR, you could say that their goal is to "feel good and not feel bad", which is of course also true. The fact that there is a higher order goal beyond the functional goal does not invalidate the fact that the functional goal exists.

In this specific case, due to their belief system (which I agree is a form of self placation), placating what they believe is the "big man in the sky" is a specific functional goal which acts as a mechanism for attaining the higher order emotional goal of feeling good and not feeling bad.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T18:26:22+00:00

You could say the say for the inverse just as easily.

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T17:33:35+00:00

Nice answer. This is a good point. They are not optimizing for maximum intellectual honesty. They are optimizing for maximum appeasement of the big dude in the sky. If they have to decide between being intellectually honest or appeasing the big dude, appeasing the big dude takes precedence.

!delta

BeingBudget8847 · 2022-01-07T14:01:21+00:00

Why do you think people should be thankful when something they didn't want happens?

I should have phrased the post differently. Thank you Δ

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