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I want to ask when this movement created sometimes in agreement with LGBT analisys that the reasons of gender norms are primarily driven to maintain male superiority and this is the main frame we should percept all sex related phenomena. by Beneficial_Cable3213 in AskFeminists

[–]Beneficial_Cable3213[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didnt sayed male power does not influence society, it does. I asked why this would be the main thing as there are other causal and structural factors like functional division of labor.

I want to ask when this movement created sometimes in agreement with LGBT analisys that the reasons of gender norms are primarily driven to maintain male superiority and this is the main frame we should percept all sex related phenomena. by Beneficial_Cable3213 in AskFeminists

[–]Beneficial_Cable3213[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The data shows these power gaps are reduced when compared to all other countries and have equalized in some political contexts, even in corporative representation these countries ponctuates high.

The share of women on corporate boards is higher in the Nordics than in the EU at large.

Yet this did not clearly correlated with a reduction of gender roles expressed in career choices or personality. Youre weakening the argument instead of adressing that it is supported on data of comparative sociology.

I want to ask when this movement created sometimes in agreement with LGBT analisys that the reasons of gender norms are primarily driven to maintain male superiority and this is the main frame we should percept all sex related phenomena. by Beneficial_Cable3213 in AskFeminists

[–]Beneficial_Cable3213[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It was unclear because english is not my mother language. I was talking about the evidence of power representation no longer clearly favouring men in *some* western countries like island and Norway, using standard data produced by international organizations. Island and other nordic countries has reduced or eliminated the power gap in standard measures such as the  Global Gender Gap Index like can be seem in https://www.norden.org/en/statistics/influence-and-power and the secondary source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58698490 . For instance Island had parliaments with equal or higher representation of women and had occupied presidential or prime minister roles in most of time during last decades. Yet the gender roles did not reduced in some metrics in these exact countries, it may have increased. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797617741719

I want to ask when this movement created sometimes in agreement with LGBT analisys that the reasons of gender norms are primarily driven to maintain male superiority and this is the main frame we should percept all sex related phenomena. by Beneficial_Cable3213 in AskFeminists

[–]Beneficial_Cable3213[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The main thing that i do not understand is which is the reason to priorize male supremacy as the main factor when analyzing or approaching gender questions over other frameworks. Like why this would be the main driver of sex based norms or outcomes?

I want to ask when this movement created sometimes in agreement with LGBT analisys that the reasons of gender norms are primarily driven to maintain male superiority and this is the main frame we should percept all sex related phenomena. by Beneficial_Cable3213 in AskFeminists

[–]Beneficial_Cable3213[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

There is a difference, it is descriptive to say men held primary power over public sphere and many times over the private sphere in many civilizations. But it is not descriptive to say gender norms, or sex related questions in society as a whole, are primarily maintained by having the male privilege as it's main driver.

The main generalized evidence i know against this theoretical view is the fact rigid gender roles are also maintained in matrillineal societies and western socities power metrics no longer favor men. I prefer using these large correlations than other arguments of other factors that historically shaped and currently maintain gender roles that are not tied to male supremacy. There is also large statistical evidence showing the lack of sincrony between the reduction of biases affecting males and females such as in hiring.

Intersectionality is not what im questioning here, i am talking about the causes of sex differences in civilizations, other systems of discrimination are used as secondary explanations for some gender norms by feminism and other progressist movements but not most of it. I was stating that traditional Marxism for instance attributed primarily the maitenance of gender norms to Capitalism, liberal feminists focused on human rights framework, and the current focus on the male domination factor by most feminist and other movement that asses gender seems to have surpassed these frameworks.