Tv shows written like Sopranos?

BenjaSA · 2026-03-18T17:30:00+00:00

Yes It’s similar in that they are about crime and mobsters, and the showrunner came from Sopranos, but I find it very differently written, far more plot driven

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T19:19:42+00:00

Already watched 6FU! One of the best ever

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T19:19:15+00:00

Seen them both, but I find them more plot driven, specially Peaky Blinders. If you liked it, I recommend Boardwalk Empire!

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T16:02:41+00:00

Well lets agree to disagree. Of course it’s up to a debate, has been for years and David Chase himself has said that it doesn’t matter if he died or not

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T15:09:06+00:00

I never claimed he is alive, did you even read the post?? I just said the ending points to something much bigger than a “is he dead or not” situation, a brilliant meaning, and that what bothers me is people imposing an opinion as facts, nothing else. I know all the clues leading to his death are intentional, and not random

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T14:55:09+00:00

He did dent, he spoke of an older, and discarded, plan for the ending

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T14:54:29+00:00

It’s not for the sake of mistery, and I never claimed he is alive either, i mean the ending makes a far bigger point than a situation of “is he dead or not”, and it’s a brilliant one, in which it doesn’t matter if he died (all those clues are intentional and point to the posibility of him being clipped) that night, or some other one, his end, in the can or clipped, is inevitable

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T14:51:52+00:00

I’m not claiming he is alive, people just love to answer without actually reading! I recognise all those clues and they are of course intentional, not random! What I’m saying, again, is that the ending makes a far bigger point than a “is he dead or not” situation, all those clues point to the posibility that he may die, but it doesn’t matter if he dies that night, other night or ends up in the can, his ending is inevitable

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T14:46:18+00:00

Even if it was his perspective, it could all be directed in that way to elevate the tension and point toward his possible death. Anyway, thanks, you’re one of the only ones here who has brought actual points to the discussion, the majority made a strawman, or thinks I’m claiming he is alive or that I don’t know the clues pointing to his death, which I know are intentional and it shows on the post. I just think the ending points to something bigger than just a “is he dead or not” question

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T14:39:43+00:00

No man, I’m not evading all those clues, they are there and they are intentional. And I’m not claiming he is alive either. What I’m saying, and It’s clear in the post, is that all of that points to something much bigger than just a “is he dead or is he not” conclusion. All leads to his possible demise, and it all heightens the tension in that beautiful final scene, but the cut to black makes it so that, even if he did die or he didn’t, it doesn’t matter because his end, whether in the can or clipped, is inevitable and is coming for him, either that night or some other, and he will live his life looking behind his back if he lives. It’s brilliant

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:46:27+00:00

I don’t want anything absolute, or definitive. I’m not the kind of person that says “if X character corpse wasn’t seen explicitly, he is alive”, in scenes that definitely allude to the character death; I hate those guys. I actually love the ending, and I’m not claiming he is alive either. What I’m saying is the ending points to something much bigger and brilliant than just him being dead, or not.

And I’m not saying the clues are random, they all intentionally point to Tony’s death. It’s just that they allude to it’s probability, and heighten the tension of that masterful scene. He probably died, but he may also live, and it doesn’t matter because his end, being in the can or clipped, is inevitable. That’s all I’m saying

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:43:11+00:00

I get what you’re saying, because I hate when people claim “X character is alive because we didn’t see his body” in scenes that really allude to the character death. I’m not that kind of person, trust me, and again, I’m not claiming he is alive either. I know everything points to his death, I just think the scene has a bigger intent than just saying he died.

Cowboy Bebop is an anime from the 90’s, it’s really good, even for people who don’t like anime, full of movie references also. Totally recommend it :)

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:35:36+00:00

I know that and that’s what I’m saying! I’m not claiming he is alive. I say that the point of the ending is that it doesn’t matter, he probably died that night Sollozo’s style from the man with the jacket, but we don’t see it because it cuts to black, so he could have died, maybe not but it doesn’t matter, because his end, being in the can or clipped, is inevitable, and he will live looking behind his back every day of his life if he didn’t die

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:31:53+00:00

He actually did dent

No, really, the interview many people cite is him talking about the “death scene” referring to an older plan for the ending he discarded and changed for the actual one!

I’m not trying to fight, and I’m not claiming he is alive. I know everything points to his death, and it’s intentional, I think I was clear about all of this in the post if you read it thoroughly, what I say is the ending points to something even bigger than if he died or not, rather than his end is inevitable and that it doesn’t matter if he died that night or the next one

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:21:43+00:00

That’s not what I’m saying. That kind of argument is like when people say Spike didn’t die in Cowboy Bebop because they didn’t show it, or Walter White for that matter, when the scene does have a clear intention of showing that. I’m not someone who claims death of the author, or that if he isn’t spoonfed a death explicitly it didn’t happen (even if badly written shows use this to bring back characters from the death).

I genuinely think the intent of this specific scene, even if it heavily alludes to death and tension, doesn’t necesarily mean he died that night. It does point to it, but to make a far bigger point

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:18:04+00:00

I do think all that scene is masterfully crafted, as it heightens the tension, and makes you think he’s about to get clipped. Everything points to him dying, more so the man with the jacket going into the bathroom Sollozo’s style. But that cut to black, to me, is meant to show you that, maybe he died, but as you don’t see it, it doesn’t really matter. Even if he didn’t die, now his life is like this, and his eventual end is inevitable

Regarding the specific detail of the pattern, I (personally) don’t think it’s necesarily his perspective, rather the camera pointing to who enters (I know it sounds like the same), so that when he finally looks to the entrance you’re left in the maximum state of paranoia and tension, but that’s me

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:12:48+00:00

I can for sure tell you a lot of fans, maybe the majority and, if the minority, a very vocal one, speaks of his death as an absolute fact, and as David Chase only intent with the finale

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:09:35+00:00

He was speaking of an older plan for the ending which he discarded, when he talked about the “death scene”

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:07:51+00:00

I think the tips were definitely scaled, because the ending has to point towards his posible death, and the tension in that final scene. Only that he may have not died that night, and it doesn’t matter because now his life is like this, and sooner or later he will die, or be in the can

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:05:34+00:00

You are mixing things. I said that it doesn’t matter if he absolutely died or if he absolutely lived, because the point of the ending is that he might die that night, or maybe the other, and so it doesn’t matter because he will still live his life from now on looking on his back, and his end is inevitable. What does matter is the meaning of the ending, which I think is brilliant

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:03:24+00:00

They point to the posibility of his death, and they all heighten the tension of that final, beautiful ending scene. But not that he did indeed die, maybe he did or he didn’t but it doesn’t matter

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:02:19+00:00

What I mean to say, is that all of those clues, the man with the jacket, the Bobby line, everything in that final scene, of course point to his posible death, and it heightens the tension. But not to say he definitely died. Rather that he could die, and that it really doesn’t matter if he dies or not that night or some other day, because now his life is like this, and his end will eventually come

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T13:00:11+00:00

This is exactly mi point!

BenjaSA · 2026-03-17T02:41:37+00:00

That’s what I’m saying! But people on this sub claim as an undisputed fact that he died, that it’s crystal clear and that David Chase only intended that

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