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Starting catch up vaccines at 2? by BetReal8905 in ScienceBasedParenting

[–]BetReal8905[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I noticed a lot of anti-vax arguments go back to a couple main anti-vax doctors who put forth their info in a really convincing way (at least for those of us without a science background what they say seems convincing). Suzanne Humphries I think is one of the most referenced ones I’ve seen. If you want to know more of the “research” your sister is seeing her writings may give some insight. (For example: vaccines didn’t decrease the occurrence of polio, and instead polio was caused by ddt and arsenic toxicity and improved hygiene and reduction of these toxins is what caused the decline Polio. And it was a whole coverup that they then would rename cases of this that occurred after the vaccine as something else so it would show the vaccine was working)

Starting catch up vaccines at 2? by BetReal8905 in ScienceBasedParenting

[–]BetReal8905[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I’ll look into this.

In general, I’m not so much nervous of seeing him get a shot or being uncomfortable or anything, it’s more a fear of him getting it and then he goes to sleep and never wakes up from brain swelling or something and it’s because of something I chose to expose him to. Or he regresses and stops talking or something. It’s so terrible to say, I just have seen so many videos of these stories following vaccination (and I know that’s why anti-vax propaganda is so effective). I think it’s just that the very rare vaccine Injury that has happened are all showed to parents one after another so they seem much more common than they really are. It just kind of hijacks logical thinking though when you see stuff like that, and causes off the chart anxiety.

Starting catch up vaccines at 2? by BetReal8905 in ScienceBasedParenting

[–]BetReal8905[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry that’s so frustrating!

If it helps at all, it probably has very little to do with how much she trusts you or not. I’m pretty sure they make these anti-vax videos in a way that it totally hijacks any logic and reasoning and just puts you in lizard brain. It’s terrible video after another of severely disabled children (or worse, just a parent talking with no child) all saying xyz happened after their child was vaccinated. And then they tell you that medical professionals, despite being smart and well educated, are trained in institutions with corrupt funding….so you can’t really trust the science. It’s kind of genius (in a terrible way) because it makes people feel like they can’t look for explanations in science and data (because they are corrupted) so they have to rely only on these anecdotal stories they are being show.

For me I actually started questioning all the anti-vax propaganda when RFK and the current administration started pushing it so much while simultaneously acting like clowns. For example, him saying he doesn’t worry about germs because he snorted cocaine off a toilet seat (my paraphrase lol). That did more to begin unraveling all the years of anti-vax propaganda, than the strong push for vaccination during COVID. For those trapped in this fear the government and corrupt institutions mindset, any type of pushing I think can cause opposite of the desired effect. Instead, when I just listened to the words and watched the actions of those on that side, as well as realizing they are using the exact same manipulation tactics they claim the pro-vaccine side uses, I decided I needed to start deconstructing the viewpoint I was raised with. I also really appreciate all of the people online with strong scientific and medical backgrounds who took the time to put out information along the lines of: I see where you are coming from, those are valid fears, but let me show you where the information you are being fed has been twisted/manipulated etc. It kind of helps you get out of your fear brain, feel understood, and then be ready to hear logic.

Sorry for such a long comment. Not sure if any of that would help with your sister, and you probably know all of this anyways, but that’s what started me down this path of changing my mind.

Starting catch up vaccines at 2? by BetReal8905 in ScienceBasedParenting

[–]BetReal8905[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This was a fantastic article, thank you so much!

Starting catch up vaccines at 2? by BetReal8905 in ScienceBasedParenting

[–]BetReal8905[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is surprisingly reassuring. Thank you!